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magellan315 May 8, 2009 10:58 am


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11716596)
The mans behavior was very abnormal. which is why they followed him through several airport terminals. They believed that he was trying to determine which terminal he could escape from the fastest. The team tailed him for a while until they felt like that he was finished then approached him. They were probably looking for a valid reason for his actions. OCD or something of that nature. I was told that he "flipped out" on them. So the LEOs took it from there.

They followed the individual around and confronted him before seeing the tattoos so no they didn't confront him because of them. I think the guy not cooperating made them far more unsettled than any tattoo could. I added the tattoos into the post because its just not very common. Like I said earlier if he had a clown suit or Kip Hawley tattoo I would have added that too.

Please provide a link to a incident report so we can verify the facts of this incident.

Crazyace718 May 8, 2009 12:35 pm


Originally Posted by magellan315 (Post 11716859)
Please provide a link to a incident report so we can verify the facts of this incident.

I dont have a link to any incident report. The guy was apparently doing a dry run or mapping out an escape route. The LEOs didn't have enough to detain him so they let him go. The whole point of my post was to show you that crazy stuff like that happens all the time without being reported to the media. TSOs are constantly briefed about these incidents though.

I was agreeing with the statement the OP quoted.

ND Sol May 8, 2009 12:36 pm


Originally Posted by magellan315 (Post 11716859)
Please provide a link to a incident report so we can verify the facts of this incident.

Silly rabbit, that report is SSI. ;)

magellan315 May 8, 2009 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11717468)
I dont have a link to any incident report. The guy was apparently doing a dry run or mapping out an escape route. The LEOs didn't have enough to detain him so they let him go. The whole point of my post was to show you that crazy stuff like that happens all the time without being reported to the media. TSOs are constantly briefed about these incidents though.

I was agreeing with the statement the OP quoted.

Then provide a copy of the document that was used to brief the TSO's about this incident.

Crazyace718 May 8, 2009 1:06 pm


Originally Posted by magellan315 (Post 11717655)
Then provide a copy of the document that was used to brief the TSO's about this incident.

I dont work for the TSA. Even if I did I wouldn't go document hunting for you.
Do you ask all the other posters on this forum to provide documentation for their stories?

Boggie Dog May 8, 2009 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11717667)
I dont work for the TSA. Even if I did I wouldn't go document hunting for you.
Do you ask all the other posters on this forum to provide documentation for their stories?

If I remember correctly you did say you worked for TSA for a couple of years.

Would you mind saying why you left?

magellan315 May 8, 2009 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11717667)
I dont work for the TSA. Even if I did I wouldn't go document hunting for you.
Do you ask all the other posters on this forum to provide documentation for their stories?

Ever since Ron started claiming we needed to provide documentation to back up our claims, its time TSA apologists did the same. So since you did not work for the TSA and have no way to document this incident I will take it at face value. An urban myth used by the TSA to show that there is a bogeyman hiding in the closet.

Crazyace718 May 8, 2009 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 11717696)
If I remember correctly you did say you worked for TSA for a couple of years.

Would you mind saying why you left?

I genuinely disliked the job and felt that a lot of the rules were asinine. Stuff like zip lock bags, entire flights with SSSS, the PASS system. After my first year I took a ton of exams for other jobs. ICE, NYPD, PAPD, DOC, Bridge and Tunnel, the list goes on and on. Eventually my list number came up.

Why do I still lurk flyertalk? If you haven't noticed I enjoy debating especially when playing devils advocate. This website is a good outlet for it.

Crazyace718 May 8, 2009 1:23 pm


Originally Posted by magellan315 (Post 11717719)
Ever since Ron started claiming we needed to provide documentation to back up our claims, its time TSA apologists did the same. So since you did not work for the TSA and have no way to document this incident I will take it at face value. An urban myth used by the TSA to show that there is a bogeyman hiding in the closet.

I'm confused, does Ron run Flyertalk or the TSA blog?
We are on Flyertalk right now if you don't ask anyone else on Flyer talk for documentation don't ask me for it.

magellan315 May 8, 2009 1:26 pm


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11717794)
I'm confused, does Ron run Flyertalk or the TSA blog?
We are on Flyertalk right now if you don't ask anyone else on Flyer talk for documentation don't ask me for it.

The only people who are unable to provide documentation or unwilling tend to be current and former TSO's. This is not about how Flyertalk is run, this is about providing me with a credible source instead of just taking your word of "if you only knew what we knew and saw what we saw".

Crazyace718 May 8, 2009 1:30 pm


Originally Posted by magellan315 (Post 11717812)
The only people who are unable to provide documentation or unwilling tend to be current and former TSO's. This is not about how Flyertalk is run, this is about providing me with a credible source instead of just taking your word of "if you only knew what we knew and saw what we saw".


I am a former employee and like I said even if I could I wouldn't.

I have seen some pretty outrageous stories posted here. What I'm asking is why don't you hold other posters to that standard? Would it be fair to say that you are bias towards me?

magellan315 May 8, 2009 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11717842)
I am a former employee and like I said even if I could I wouldn't.

I have seen some pretty outrageous stories posted here. What I'm asking is why don't you hold other posters to that standard? Would it be fair to say that you are bias towards me?

I'll be more than glad to hold anyone on this forum accountable, there is no bias towards you. since you are no longer a TSA employee that means you are less than credible when it comes to statements about current TSA policies and problems. As your experience is outdated.

Boggie Dog May 8, 2009 2:06 pm


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11717776)
I genuinely disliked the job and felt that a lot of the rules were asinine. Stuff like zip lock bags, entire flights with SSSS, the PASS system. After my first year I took a ton of exams for other jobs. ICE, NYPD, PAPD, DOC, Bridge and Tunnel, the list goes on and on. Eventually my list number came up.

Why do I still lurk flyertalk? If you haven't noticed I enjoy debating especially when playing devils advocate. This website is a good outlet for it.

I think it is admirable that you left. Anone staying in a job they don't like is certainly not doing themselves or those who they come in contact with any favors.


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