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The comments on the blog seem to echo our concerns... is this a proposal or will this actually be coming true? I can't imagine all our checkpoints would be suddenly transformed this year.
Also, the mural wall would block the checkpoint from public view, if I read that correctly. I also hate this statement by Kip: People. The threat environment makes it clear that we need to add layers of security to be effective against adaptive terrorists. This means adding a capability to detect a potential problem even if they are not carrying anything prohibited -- in other words, more focus on people, not just things. That means deploying more officers specially trained in behavior detection and document checking to identify people that intend to do harm, not just waiting to find their prohibited item in a carry-on bag. I feel somewhat sickened. I usually try to support TSA, to see their side, but even this is going a bit too far. Cee & other TSA'ers here - share your thoughts. |
Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 9492389)
No more "barkers?" Where will they be transferred to?
Harmless, huh? Will the screener have to delete the image, or will going to the next victim automatically effect that process? I'm glad I don't fly from BWI. |
Then what's wrong with the X-RAY detectors we have now? I think what we have now works pretty well. Are they saying they won't have any of those X-RAY detectors?
Also, it shouldn't be TSA's responsibility to watch for suspicious behavior. If someone with "bad intentions" or "hostile intent" tries to pull something on a plane, it's pretty much guaranteed that aware passengers plus FAM's will have that passenger on the floor within a few minutes. I think this is a waste of time and money. Just leave our checkpoints as it is - but educate TSA on how to have better customer service and perhaps give back the ID checking to private contractors or just abolish it altogether.
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 9496064)
This is, I'm pretty sure, "millimeter x-ray," not "radio waves," as the article says. As someone who has had melanoma I am not, for one second, going to allow myself to be exposed to unnecessary x-ray radiation, nor do I intend to suffer a pat-down every time I fly. I see rough seas ahead. :mad:
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Originally Posted by Andy1369
(Post 9496023)
The comments on the blog seem to echo our concerns... is this a proposal or will this actually be coming true? I can't imagine all our checkpoints would be suddenly transformed this year.
Also, the mural wall would block the checkpoint from public view, if I read that correctly. I also hate this statement by Kip: Smacks totally of thoughtcrime. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I feel somewhat sickened. I usually try to support TSA, to see their side, but even this is going a bit too far. Cee & other TSA'ers here - share your thoughts. These people don't wake up one day and decide to hijack a plane. They plan it out in detail, up to and including lots of probing and dry runs. That's the place to catch the plot, not day of. |
This story makes my skin crawl...like thinking of the neighborhood pedophile who goes all out decorating for Halloween to attract more kids to his house....
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Originally Posted by law dawg
(Post 9496302)
I don't find it thought crime as much as trying to catch something in the planning/intel gathering phase.
These people don't wake up one day and decide to hijack a plane. They plan it out in detail, up to and including lots of probing and dry runs. That's the place to catch the plot, not day of. Discovery of such improbable "plots" should be 100% transparent to regular passengers. We should not be caught up in these incompetently executed inspections. :mad: |
Originally Posted by Andy1369
(Post 9496023)
Smacks totally of thoughtcrime. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I feel somewhat sickened. I usually try to support TSA, to see their side, but even this is going a bit too far. Cee & other TSA'ers here - share your thoughts. It sounds as if Kippie and Skeletor are trying to get as many offensive policies in place before they leave as they possible can. |
http://www.tsa.gov/evolution/innovation.shtm
The new uniform is cool looking. Now all they have to do is give then guns. |
Originally Posted by law dawg
(Post 9496302)
I don't find it thought crime as much as trying to catch something in the planning/intel gathering phase.
These people don't wake up one day and decide to hijack a plane. They plan it out in detail, up to and including lots of probing and dry runs. That's the place to catch the plot, not day of. more officers specially trained in behavior detection and document checking |
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 9496358)
The false positive rate for inspections and "catches" is completely unacceptable.
Discovery of such improbable "plots" should be 100% transparent to regular passengers. We should not be caught up in these incompetently executed inspections. :mad: |
Originally Posted by law dawg
(Post 9496540)
I want someone to do this. I'm not convincing TSOs are the best candidates, but I don't see anyone else lining up for the job.
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Originally Posted by Andy1369
(Post 9496137)
Then what's wrong with the X-RAY detectors we have now? I think what we have now works pretty well. Are they saying they won't have any of those X-RAY detectors? ...
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Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 9496547)
What exactly is it that you want people to do?
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Originally Posted by law dawg
(Post 9496678)
Behavior detection.
We need to get the rest of their house in order before we start looking at fancy extras - the meat and potatoes need to be fixed, like better checked and carry-on baggage scanning with on-the-fly liquid scanning, non-invasive full body scanning with chemical trace analysis, cargo screening, proper staffing levels, and a better attitude. Get the A, B, Cs fixed before you start looking for X,Y,Zs to play with. |
Originally Posted by Andy1369
(Post 9496137)
Then what's wrong with the X-RAY detectors we have now? I think what we have now works pretty well. Are they saying they won't have any of those X-RAY detectors?
Also, it shouldn't be TSA's responsibility to watch for suspicious behavior. If someone with "bad intentions" or "hostile intent" tries to pull something on a plane, it's pretty much guaranteed that aware passengers plus FAM's will have that passenger on the floor within a few minutes. I think this is a waste of time and money. Just leave our checkpoints as it is - but educate TSA on how to have better customer service and perhaps give back the ID checking to private contractors or just abolish it altogether. |
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