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Jan 21, 2008 | 5:24 pm
#16
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Photographing state capitol buildings and the like is in no way suspicious. If it were, why are all those "tourists" in DC who photograph such places as the White House and US Capitol not being investigated. Some of those "tourists" aren't even American; some even live in other countries!
Jan 21, 2008 | 11:29 pm
#17
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Jan 22, 2008 | 1:00 am
#18
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Eurozone
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Shoving a person's face into the concrete based on an anonymous tip?
I wouldn't have left that parking lot without an explanation why and a verification that the owner had a problem with me being there.Obviously there are too many L.E. agencies with too many resources with too many assigned LEOs and too much time on their hands if they're hassling a U.S. citizen like this.
Jan 22, 2008 | 5:20 am
#19
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I feel bad for this guy, who is apparently not a terrorist. However, given his background, his ethniciy and having lived abroad, and especially the methods of Islamowackos, the attention is understandable. Mr. Fazel's difficulties starkly illustrate what we have allowed the Islamowackos to do to our country and culture. For the loss of many of our rights and our open society, we should change the Mideast, although not the way we are doing it now,with thousands of Americans paying the ultimate sacrifice in a quagmire.
Jan 22, 2008 | 5:26 am
#20
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As someone who spent years working as an artist in the USA, I can tell you that Americans in general, and American law enforcement particularly, have absolutely zero understanding of what art is all about. Anything the police don't understand (which is most things) they are suspicious of. I did my work back in the 1990s, well before the 9/11-driven paranoia, but set up a camera in a busy public place, and I can tell you the police will be around in minutes with asisinine questions like "what are you taking these pictures for?" No wonder the guy moved to Italy -- Italian police never approached Michelangelo and demanded, "what are you carving this picture of David for?"
Bunch of inbred philistine cretins.
Bunch of inbred philistine cretins.
Jan 22, 2008 | 5:45 am
#21
Join Date: Oct 2007
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As someone who spent years working as an artist in the USA, I can tell you that Americans in general, and American law enforcement particularly, have absolutely zero understanding of what art is all about. Anything the police don't understand (which is most things) they are suspicious of. I did my work back in the 1990s, well before the 9/11-driven paranoia, but set up a camera in a busy public place, and I can tell you the police will be around in minutes with asisinine questions like "what are you taking these pictures for?" No wonder the guy moved to Italy -- Italian police never approached Michelangelo and demanded, "what are you carving this picture of David for?"
Bunch of inbred philistine cretins.
Bunch of inbred philistine cretins.
There are feckless hacks everywhere and the actual prohibition on photography is strongest in Africa and the Mid-east. Many buildings are simply off limits.
Here in Italy they can be very sensitive, especially around airports.
Ciao,
FH
Jan 22, 2008 | 1:56 pm
#23
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Jan 22, 2008 | 2:25 pm
#24
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: YPE
Posts: 421
I have been stopped for taking pictures in Italy, Germany, Britain, Saudi Arabia (where I had a nice run in with the Matawa), Singapore, Canada, and Qatar. In fact in Doha I was told to dump my disk, which I got out of off when a fellow flyer from the Qatari military came by.
There are feckless hacks everywhere and the actual prohibition on photography is strongest in Africa and the Mid-east. Many buildings are simply off limits.
Here in Italy they can be very sensitive, especially around airports.
Ciao,
FH
There are feckless hacks everywhere and the actual prohibition on photography is strongest in Africa and the Mid-east. Many buildings are simply off limits.
Here in Italy they can be very sensitive, especially around airports.
Ciao,
FH
Jan 22, 2008 | 3:25 pm
#25
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: Deciding Which Airline to Fly in 2012
Posts: 420
True, W is a Republican Socialist, who has done more for useless people in the gov't than he has for productive people in the the private sector, all the while letting Osama run free. But he's just an incompetent idiot himself, like all the bureaucrats he's hired. It's a major problem that we have to subsidize this nonsense, but comparing it to pre-war Germany is more than over the top.
Jan 22, 2008 | 3:59 pm
#26
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Jan 23, 2008 | 5:18 pm
#27
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 22
Overstating the problem doesn't help to solve it.
True, W is a Republican Socialist, who has done more for useless people in the gov't than he has for productive people in the the private sector, all the while letting Osama run free. But he's just an incompetent idiot himself, like all the bureaucrats he's hired. It's a major problem that we have to subsidize this nonsense, but comparing it to pre-war Germany is more than over the top.
True, W is a Republican Socialist, who has done more for useless people in the gov't than he has for productive people in the the private sector, all the while letting Osama run free. But he's just an incompetent idiot himself, like all the bureaucrats he's hired. It's a major problem that we have to subsidize this nonsense, but comparing it to pre-war Germany is more than over the top.
Jan 23, 2008 | 6:11 pm
#28
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