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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:56 am
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Stansted security weigh hand luggage

Security at Stansted require people to weigh their hand luggage, they have imposed a limit of 10Kg. I fail to see what this has to do with security, surely this is an Airline issue? I tried to point this out and was told that it is E.U. policy. Does anyone know if this is the case?
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 12:40 pm
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Ugh. Could not find anything online except EU liquids-in-bag rule as of Nov 6.

Related FT thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=606675

We went thru this checking in for BNE-LAX on QF in Aug. After waiting about 30 min in the Business Class line with only 2 agents for a 747, the counter agent made us weigh our carry-ons, claiming that they 'might' check at security and he was trying to 'save us some trouble'. As a result, we spent a good 10 min trying to rearrange our carryons (which included a dive camera) to get under the QF 7kg limit (and tying up the line further). Of course, they weren't weighing anything at security and we put everything back in its original place after clearing. What a huge pain!!
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by dstan
to get under the QF 7kg limit (and tying up the line further).
I assume QF has a contradictory policy of not "allowing" computers, etc. in checked luggage. 7kg is more than many computer (with cables, etc.) and bag combinations. I guess they have 100% reliable baggage delivery, because you won't be able to carry on any clothing or other personal items.
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 1:56 pm
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Thanks for the link, I had already searched but could only find reference to bag dimensions. I am hoping that someone will know as I suspect that it is a BAA makey uppy rule. Is it common at many other airports?
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 2:07 pm
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They've done it for some time for Ryanair flights. Didn't know they did it for other airlines

You should also realise that hand luggage size is lower at Stansted than most other UK airports at 55cm(21.7 in) tall by 40cm (15.7in) wide by 20cm (7.9 in) deep EXCEPT for EOS & Maxjet passengers
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 2:19 pm
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Originally Posted by ralfp
I assume QF has a contradictory policy of not "allowing" computers, etc. in checked luggage. 7kg is more than many computer (with cables, etc.) and bag combinations. I guess they have 100% reliable baggage delivery, because you won't be able to carry on any clothing or other personal items.
Try adding a scuba regulator, too!
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by chalkitdown
Security at Stansted require people to weigh their hand luggage, they have imposed a limit of 10Kg. I fail to see what this has to do with security, surely this is an Airline issue? I tried to point this out and was told that it is E.U. policy. Does anyone know if this is the case?
I don't believe there is an EU policy limiting hand baggage to 10 kg (and there are a number of EU airlines whose limit is higher).

As someone else has remarked they have been doing this for Ryanair flights for some time, and I always assumed this was under an arrangement with the airline. They shouldn't be doing this for Easyjet who use "no weight restrictions for hand baggage" as one of their main selling points.
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by ralfp
I assume QF has a contradictory policy of not "allowing" computers, etc. in checked luggage. 7kg is more than many computer (with cables, etc.) and bag combinations. I guess they have 100% reliable baggage delivery, because you won't be able to carry on any clothing or other personal items.
NOt to sidetrack but that is over 15lbs. What kind of computers are we talking about?


Though I do agree, a 7kg limit seems a bit absurd.

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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 5:53 pm
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I recall years ago (1999) having hand baggage weighted at BA (Gatwick)-- and I could just barely carry my computer. As a result, I've stopped flying BA.

In 2006, I came back from Italy (embarked at Bari, connected through Rome) without any problems. So it is certainly not EU.
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by chalkitdown
Security at Stansted require people to weigh their hand luggage, they have imposed a limit of 10Kg. I fail to see what this has to do with security, surely this is an Airline issue? I tried to point this out and was told that it is E.U. policy. Does anyone know if this is the case?
Came from MUC to IAD a few weeks ago with an expandable roller board that was over 10 KG (had to check it at SYD for a flight to MEL a few days later and it was about 20 KG as I recall). Anyway, no one weighed it.

London won't be in my travel plans for a while I guess.
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingHoustonian
NOt to sidetrack but that is over 15lbs. What kind of computers are we talking about?
Say 3kg for a computer, 1-2kg for the power supply, extra battery, cables, etc.
That leaves 2-3kg for a bag. A lot of bags, esp. rolling bags, weigh more than that. My "lightweight" rollaboard is just over 4kg.

Now where are the boxer shorts, socks, & shirts supposed to go?
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by mre5765
Came from MUC to IAD a few weeks ago with an expandable roller board that was over 10 KG (had to check it at SYD for a flight to MEL a few days later and it was about 20 KG as I recall). Anyway, no one weighed it.

London won't be in my travel plans for a while I guess.
So... no one weighed your bag at MUC on this occasion, you've read on an Internet board that some people had their bags weighed at one London airport, so you decide to avoid London?

It is the norm to have a weight limit for carry-ons in Europe. There are very few airlines that don't have one. Sometimes one gets away with being over the limit, sometimes one doesn't. I've had my carry-on weighed in Germany on occasions. I've had it NOT weighed in the UK on occasions. It's just luck of the draw. If you want to be sure not to be parted from your carry-on in Europe make sure you know each airline's limit, and that you stick to it.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 1:21 am
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Originally Posted by Aviatrix
So... no one weighed your bag at MUC on this occasion, you've read on an Internet board that some people had their bags weighed at one London airport, so you decide to avoid London?
No one has weighed my bag in MUC or FRA in 6 occasions this year, and FRA and MUC x-ray bags about every 50 meters of concourse. I do try to confine my travel with airlines that let me carry as heavy a bag as I can hoist, e.g. UA.

I'm surprised the London airports don't weight bags after pax exit the air side shops with new purchases. One never knows if one might tip the 7 KG limit with a box of Smarties.

United.com's 1k site continues to warn its elites that LHR has a strict one carry one policy.

The UK is threatening to extract the DNA of every visitor.

London is not in my travel plans. Really, if the UK gov't is that worried about terrorists, then who am I to argue? If I don't go the UK, it is one less visitor they have to worry about and they can focus on their terrorism problem.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 1:58 am
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There's a misunderstanding here. References to weighing of hand baggage at UK airports must surely be by airlines and not 'security'.

As mentioned above, Ryanair (and some others) do weigh hand luggage at check-in - looking for more revenue, of course. EasyJet don't.

I'll keep a lookout for a 'security' weigh-in tomorrow.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 4:55 am
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As it happens I was flying Ryanair at the time, but Stansted security was randomly weighing baggage, it didn't appear to matter that it was a Ryanair flight.
I have no problem with airlines having carry on limits but I do have an issue with security declaring it as E.U. policy.
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