TSA greeters looking for arriving pax
Oct 16, 2007, 12:22 pm
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Why can't this be discussed without the above?
IMO, airport volunteers meeting and greeting wounded returning vets is a great idea. ^^ to any screener (or air traffic controller or pilot or other veteran) who is willing to volunteer their time to assist returning vets, be it on their day off or during some other off-the-clock break.
to any supervisor/screening manager/fsd/screener who doesn't see the criminal offense if on-the-clock screeners abandon their screening duties to act as docents at the gate.
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Oct 16, 2007, 12:29 pm
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We all have great respect for vets and those who serve. But in general, I have a lot of disdain and bad feelings about the TSA. I do not want an organization that terrorizes the average American citizen to buy "public PR" on my tax dollars.
You can all go greet vets all you like, but please don't do it under the guise of "the TSA really cares about you and our soldiers" because the TSA as a disfunctional organization does not deserve that kind of public marketing, especially not when my airline fees are being used to terrorize my fellow travelers.
The TSA has one function and one function only - to provide "security" (no matter how ineffective) for air travelers.
Next we'll hear about how felons want to babysit our little kids, and how dare we discourage felons from performing a valuable public service!! Give me a break man!
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Oct 16, 2007, 1:47 pm
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You can all go greet vets all you like, but please don't do it under the guise of "the TSA really cares about you and our soldiers" because the TSA as a disfunctional organization does not deserve that kind of public marketing, especially not when my airline fees are being used to terrorize my fellow travelers.
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Oct 16, 2007, 1:53 pm
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To all the responses to my post:
Folks, it is called "Mission Creep". If the TSA becomes an escort-service (poor choice of words I know, but you know what I mean in this context) whats to prevent them from doing other duties at the airport, and on other transportation facilities?
Will they be writing parking tickets at the curbside loading area?
Shall we have them inspect tickets on your local Light Rail line?
Could we have enroute cruise-long TSA inspection for cruise-ship passengers?
Can we have them push wheelchair passengers to the gate?
Hey, they work cheaper than your average Highway Tollbooth collector!
How about firing those pesky SkyCaps (and RedCaps at Amtrak stations) and make the $9/HR TSA'hole check our bags? Will tipping be allowed? Why not? Do you hate America?
The TSA is already on the road to an auxillary federal police force what with "officers" and epaulettes. And they are much cheaper than unionized professonal LEO's, a fact that is not lost on cost-concious/no-new-taxes politicians.
(See Blackwater or look up the German word for "Protective Squadron")
Be careful what you wish for, and get the TSA personnel out of the concourse and back to manning that unused mega-$$$ magnometer (which is closed due to lack of TSA personnel?) so the lines move quicker and we can make our flights!
And sorry, but asking the TSA to do their job when they are on the clock, or taking their uniform off when they are not, is not the same as spitting on brave returning soldiers.
Folks, it is called "Mission Creep". If the TSA becomes an escort-service (poor choice of words I know, but you know what I mean in this context) whats to prevent them from doing other duties at the airport, and on other transportation facilities?
Will they be writing parking tickets at the curbside loading area?
Shall we have them inspect tickets on your local Light Rail line?
Could we have enroute cruise-long TSA inspection for cruise-ship passengers?
Can we have them push wheelchair passengers to the gate?
Hey, they work cheaper than your average Highway Tollbooth collector!
How about firing those pesky SkyCaps (and RedCaps at Amtrak stations) and make the $9/HR TSA'hole check our bags? Will tipping be allowed? Why not? Do you hate America?
The TSA is already on the road to an auxillary federal police force what with "officers" and epaulettes. And they are much cheaper than unionized professonal LEO's, a fact that is not lost on cost-concious/no-new-taxes politicians.
(See Blackwater or look up the German word for "Protective Squadron")
Be careful what you wish for, and get the TSA personnel out of the concourse and back to manning that unused mega-$$$ magnometer (which is closed due to lack of TSA personnel?) so the lines move quicker and we can make our flights!
And sorry, but asking the TSA to do their job when they are on the clock, or taking their uniform off when they are not, is not the same as spitting on brave returning soldiers.
Oct 16, 2007, 2:05 pm
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To all the responses to my post:
Folks, it is called "Mission Creep". If the TSA becomes an escort-service (poor choice of words I know, but you know what I mean in this context) whats to prevent them from doing other duties at the airport, and on other transportation facilities?
Will they be writing parking tickets at the curbside loading area?
Shall we have them inspect tickets on your local Light Rail line?
Could we have enroute cruise-long TSA inspection for cruise-ship passengers?
Can we have them push wheelchair passengers to the gate?
Hey, they work cheaper than your average Highway Tollbooth collector!
How about firing those pesky SkyCaps (and RedCaps at Amtrak stations) and make the $9/HR TSA'hole check our bags? Will tipping be allowed? Why not? Do you hate America?
The TSA is already on the road to an auxillary federal police force what with "officers" and epaulettes. And they are much cheaper than unionized professonal LEO's, a fact that is not lost on cost-concious/no-new-taxes politicians.
(See Blackwater or look up the German word for "Protective Squadron")
Be careful what you wish for, and get the TSA personnel out of the concourse and back to manning that unused mega-$$$ magnometer (which is closed due to lack of TSA personnel?) so the lines move quicker and we can make our flights!
And sorry, but asking the TSA to do their job when they are on the clock, or taking their uniform off when they are not, is not the same as spitting on brave returning soldiers.
Folks, it is called "Mission Creep". If the TSA becomes an escort-service (poor choice of words I know, but you know what I mean in this context) whats to prevent them from doing other duties at the airport, and on other transportation facilities?
Will they be writing parking tickets at the curbside loading area?
Shall we have them inspect tickets on your local Light Rail line?
Could we have enroute cruise-long TSA inspection for cruise-ship passengers?
Can we have them push wheelchair passengers to the gate?
Hey, they work cheaper than your average Highway Tollbooth collector!
How about firing those pesky SkyCaps (and RedCaps at Amtrak stations) and make the $9/HR TSA'hole check our bags? Will tipping be allowed? Why not? Do you hate America?
The TSA is already on the road to an auxillary federal police force what with "officers" and epaulettes. And they are much cheaper than unionized professonal LEO's, a fact that is not lost on cost-concious/no-new-taxes politicians.
(See Blackwater or look up the German word for "Protective Squadron")
Be careful what you wish for, and get the TSA personnel out of the concourse and back to manning that unused mega-$$$ magnometer (which is closed due to lack of TSA personnel?) so the lines move quicker and we can make our flights!
And sorry, but asking the TSA to do their job when they are on the clock, or taking their uniform off when they are not, is not the same as spitting on brave returning soldiers.
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Oct 16, 2007, 3:24 pm
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Are they wearing their TSA uniforms while on duty in the Middle East?
Oct 16, 2007, 3:39 pm
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To all the responses to my post:
Folks, it is called "Mission Creep". If the TSA becomes an escort-service (poor choice of words I know, but you know what I mean in this context) whats to prevent them from doing other duties at the airport, and on other transportation facilities?
Will they be writing parking tickets at the curbside loading area?
Shall we have them inspect tickets on your local Light Rail line?
Could we have enroute cruise-long TSA inspection for cruise-ship passengers?
Can we have them push wheelchair passengers to the gate?
Hey, they work cheaper than your average Highway Tollbooth collector!
How about firing those pesky SkyCaps (and RedCaps at Amtrak stations) and make the $9/HR TSA'hole check our bags? Will tipping be allowed? Why not? Do you hate America?
The TSA is already on the road to an auxillary federal police force what with "officers" and epaulettes. And they are much cheaper than unionized professonal LEO's, a fact that is not lost on cost-concious/no-new-taxes politicians.
(See Blackwater or look up the German word for "Protective Squadron")
Be careful what you wish for, and get the TSA personnel out of the concourse and back to manning that unused mega-$$$ magnometer (which is closed due to lack of TSA personnel?) so the lines move quicker and we can make our flights!
And sorry, but asking the TSA to do their job when they are on the clock, or taking their uniform off when they are not, is not the same as spitting on brave returning soldiers.
Folks, it is called "Mission Creep". If the TSA becomes an escort-service (poor choice of words I know, but you know what I mean in this context) whats to prevent them from doing other duties at the airport, and on other transportation facilities?
Will they be writing parking tickets at the curbside loading area?
Shall we have them inspect tickets on your local Light Rail line?
Could we have enroute cruise-long TSA inspection for cruise-ship passengers?
Can we have them push wheelchair passengers to the gate?
Hey, they work cheaper than your average Highway Tollbooth collector!
How about firing those pesky SkyCaps (and RedCaps at Amtrak stations) and make the $9/HR TSA'hole check our bags? Will tipping be allowed? Why not? Do you hate America?
The TSA is already on the road to an auxillary federal police force what with "officers" and epaulettes. And they are much cheaper than unionized professonal LEO's, a fact that is not lost on cost-concious/no-new-taxes politicians.
(See Blackwater or look up the German word for "Protective Squadron")
Be careful what you wish for, and get the TSA personnel out of the concourse and back to manning that unused mega-$$$ magnometer (which is closed due to lack of TSA personnel?) so the lines move quicker and we can make our flights!
And sorry, but asking the TSA to do their job when they are on the clock, or taking their uniform off when they are not, is not the same as spitting on brave returning soldiers.
Cheers
Howie
Oct 16, 2007, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by stockmanjr
I'm not sure how this equates to the rant that you just went on. Btw have you written to your congressperson or senator or the media about this yet? Since we all know how effective ranting on a message board is!
Cheers
Howie
Cheers
Howie
Originally Posted by stockmanjr
The tsa is doing what they feel is "professional courtesy" I'm not sure how this equates to the rant that you just went on.
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Oct 16, 2007, 4:05 pm
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It can be very effective, like getting people off the government's blacklists.
You don't know that -- who knows what these TSAers were doing when asking for a person coming off a flight. It could be a lot of different things -- they could even be looking for a buddy to recreate the Senator Craig airport bathroom "incident" at a different airport.
You don't know that -- who knows what these TSAers were doing when asking for a person coming off a flight. It could be a lot of different things -- they could even be looking for a buddy to recreate the Senator Craig airport bathroom "incident" at a different airport.
Cheers
Howie
Oct 16, 2007, 4:38 pm
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Flyertalk gains so many new contributors that way.
Oct 16, 2007, 5:27 pm
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Originally Posted by stockmanjr
Oh come on now that's just riddclous. They could have also been looking for a higher up who works for the TSA or some other VIP.
Originally Posted by stockmanjr
Bottom line is we don't know nor will we ever know..
Oct 16, 2007, 11:01 pm
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The were looking for "Joe Blow", not preceeded by a rank. Just one more little event in daily life that I will never know who or what it was for or how it turned out.
Oct 16, 2007, 11:59 pm
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I and many Americans despise the TSA - because it represses freedom, the very thing our vets and soldiers are fighting for.
You clearly despise your fellow Americans, calling us REMFs and what-not. Disgusting behavior clearly conveyed on a daily basis by the TSA and now you.
To have the TSA celebrate the return of vets is akin to having child molesters babysit little kids.
Can I be any more clear?
The vets and our soldiers = heroes
The TSA = waste of taxpayer money, a cowardly agency that preys upon innocent traveling Americans with arbitrarily made up nonsensical rules.
Also, let me be clear that American soldiers (heroes) resent the TSA:
Humiliation for deploying soldier searched at airport
Aug 12, 2007 — After three tiring days of travel, I recently arrived back in Afghanistan, where I'm serving a 15-month deployment with the U.S. Army's 82nd Airborne Division. I had just completed my mid-tour R&R leave, which I spent with family in my wonderful hometown of York.
Saying goodbye to family and friends is always difficult, but it is considerably harder when you're leaving your loved ones to travel to a war zone, where your life is in constant peril. Thus, you can imagine my dismay and despondency at the disgraceful treatment I received from the Harrisburg International Airport's Transportation Security Administration (TSA) screeners.
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The TSA treated me, an American soldier returning to combat, like a common criminal. Moreover, the screeners actually mentioned that I'm not the first trooper to undergo this ignominious treatment. Apparently, frisking our service members is a rather common occurrence for the TSA.
To make matters worse, my mother and grandmother were there to witness the entire disgraceful spectacle. Thanks to the TSA's absurd policies, our already stressful farewell was made all the more agonizing. Heaven forbid something should happen to me while on this deployment, as I am loath to think this debacle could be my family's last image of me.
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When contemplating the TSA's increasingly Draconian policies, I am reminded of Benjamin Franklin's oft-quoted statement, "Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." I'm serving my country because I believe in defending Americans' freedoms. The TSA's ridiculous policies do not make us safer; they simply provide a facade of security while curtailing our inalienable right to liberty.
Saying goodbye to family and friends is always difficult, but it is considerably harder when you're leaving your loved ones to travel to a war zone, where your life is in constant peril. Thus, you can imagine my dismay and despondency at the disgraceful treatment I received from the Harrisburg International Airport's Transportation Security Administration (TSA) screeners.
....
The TSA treated me, an American soldier returning to combat, like a common criminal. Moreover, the screeners actually mentioned that I'm not the first trooper to undergo this ignominious treatment. Apparently, frisking our service members is a rather common occurrence for the TSA.
To make matters worse, my mother and grandmother were there to witness the entire disgraceful spectacle. Thanks to the TSA's absurd policies, our already stressful farewell was made all the more agonizing. Heaven forbid something should happen to me while on this deployment, as I am loath to think this debacle could be my family's last image of me.
...
When contemplating the TSA's increasingly Draconian policies, I am reminded of Benjamin Franklin's oft-quoted statement, "Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." I'm serving my country because I believe in defending Americans' freedoms. The TSA's ridiculous policies do not make us safer; they simply provide a facade of security while curtailing our inalienable right to liberty.
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Oct 17, 2007, 12:23 am
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Too bad that some TSA employees subject vets in uniform to the stuff that the rest of us have to put up with - nonsense developed by TSA REMFs. I have yet to see a screener tell a troop in uniform that shoes did not need to be removed . . . yet that's what the website says. And at least most of us don't have clothing with lots of metal/medal so we can stay semi-clothed when transiting the filthy "sterile" area.
Thanks UALOneKPlus for the link - very enlightening.
Oct 17, 2007, 3:16 am
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Not supposed to be in the terminal when you're off duty? Why, chalk it up to the security policies you so seriously uphold.
Thank you for keeping our gateways safe for Democracy.
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