Rude customs and immigrations
#16
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Also...I can't believe they are allowed to tear apart an aircraft since their actions could result in making the plane unsafe...it's not exactly a rickshaw.
#17




Join Date: May 2005
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They do not interfere with the structural integrity of aircraft, as they're customs officials, not mechanics. All items removed (e.g. interior panelling; carpets; seats) are either cosmetic features or fairly mobile, so it's more of a hassle (and a time-consuming one at that) than anything else. My apologies, though -- I didn't mean to imply that the cabin was gutted, with avionics hanging out and all over the place, or anything like that.
#18
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Would the aircraft be legal to fly as they left it?
It's possible that an agent or officer could damage some of the avionics in their searches, but I never saw this occur.
I *have* seen a number of planes at FLL that were completely gutted, *allegedly* in the process of being searched for drugs, but they had alreadly likely been groomed as exhibits for legal proceedings by the time that I saw them.
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Like the TSA, there is simply no recourse if CBP does something like this.
YMMV.
#20
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Into Canada
I'd believe you on the US Customs, but you can't blame them. Most are uncaring trained-monkey bureaucrats.
Did a private charter into YWG a couple months back and had no issues with Canadian customs. Nice, pleasant and helpful.
I do complain everytime I enter the US via commercial airlines--it always seems the foreign nationals have more agents waiting to screen them than US Citizens. This is simply not the case when entering other countries, where typically the foreigners are forced to wait in line and the nationals get to breeze right through. What gives?
Did a private charter into YWG a couple months back and had no issues with Canadian customs. Nice, pleasant and helpful.
I do complain everytime I enter the US via commercial airlines--it always seems the foreign nationals have more agents waiting to screen them than US Citizens. This is simply not the case when entering other countries, where typically the foreigners are forced to wait in line and the nationals get to breeze right through. What gives?
#21
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Thanks David...I suspected it was just paneling and such but the way the FAA/CAA is it wouldn't be hard for an untrained person to tear apart something requiring an A&P...and I am not just talking due to regs...I am talking damaging something that could cause problems...cable connector...bushing....avionics or other electrics buses....man the possibilities are vast.
And as in GLobal's post...that is when it is absolutely insane that they can destroy your stuff...and require you to pay to fix it...name any other service that can do that other than "security/customs" type services.
I'd have gone to court over that one.....
And as in GLobal's post...that is when it is absolutely insane that they can destroy your stuff...and require you to pay to fix it...name any other service that can do that other than "security/customs" type services.
I'd have gone to court over that one.....
#23


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I do complain everytime I enter the US via commercial airlines--it always seems the foreign nationals have more agents waiting to screen them than US Citizens. This is simply not the case when entering other countries, where typically the foreigners are forced to wait in line and the nationals get to breeze right through. What gives?
- Michael
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#27


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Even before such procedures were in place, the lines for foreigners moved much slower. I think it has more to do with the overall level of scrutiny applied to foreigners than to nationals.
The same is true elsewhere. When we enter the EU, my wife breezes through and I'm stuck in the slow line.
- Michael
The same is true elsewhere. When we enter the EU, my wife breezes through and I'm stuck in the slow line.
- Michael
#28




Join Date: May 2005
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The two wouldn't need to be related.
I mean if someone really pisses you off then you can, quite legally, hire a private detective to tail this person, Cheaters style, and see what skeletons are in his/her closet. You might get lucky. You just have to be angry enough and rich enough.
I mean if someone really pisses you off then you can, quite legally, hire a private detective to tail this person, Cheaters style, and see what skeletons are in his/her closet. You might get lucky. You just have to be angry enough and rich enough.
#29
Join Date: May 2007
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Where where where where?? Because you can't possibly be talking about BOS, EWR, ORD, SFO, LAX, DFW, IAH, IAD, MIA, ATL, PHL, CLT, BWI, HNL, PHX, YYZ or YUL.
#30
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: CLE
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Various Airports...
It's not this way all the time, of course, I just think the US immigration officials are not very flexible in their scheduling and planning.

