Gate Checks?

Old Aug 8, 07, 9:10 pm
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Gate Checks?

Since the gate checks has been "expanded", I haven't noticed any of them (oops, probably just jinixed myself). How about you? If they're that rare, that program would probably fail. Or, maybe so many people protested against that, including gate agents, that they scrapped the idea to do gate checks? Whaddya think?

Also, I was thinking... we're VERY lucky that we don't have to go through security when transferring to another plane at a "hub" airport. Very lucky. I wonder how long until they begin requiring us to go out and through security again whenever changing a plane (even though we'll be exiting the plane in the "sterile" area and in most airports, don't have to even leave the sterile area).
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Old Aug 9, 07, 7:52 am
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I'm amazed that the TSA has reintroduced this concept. Even Kip said something about "getting it right the first time." But I guess he had a change of heart. The random gate thing is particularly horrible: it delays flights, humiliates passengers, and underscores the ineffectiveness of the checkpoints.

With clogged checkpoints, unused archways and x-ray machines, and delayed passengers, wouldn't it make more sense to use the TSA staff to serve at the checkpoint?

I've been lucky so far. I have seen the random gate screeners at San Juan and Newark, but not for my flights. I've heard that International Flights at Detroit have been hard hit (even Air France.) That and Northwests' problems will ensure that I don't transit there any time soon.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 10:28 am
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These are not "gate checks", Citizen. This is a "surge". Totally different thing altogether; we do not change our minds. Ever.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 11:39 am
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Old Aug 9, 07, 12:45 pm
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Gate Checks in force AA gates FLL last Sunday (8/5)

Totally useless and time wasting for all involved.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 1:39 pm
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I've seen the gate checks at BKW (which was ridiculous, seeing as how the TSA checkpoint is literally 15 feet from the gate) and at COS in the past year. Looked like they wanted to do them at ABQ not too long ago, too.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 1:58 pm
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Totally useless and time wasting for all involved.
I'm sure everyone has their own TSA post they love to hate, but in my experience FLL has the worst, most surly, poorly trained, incompetent, rude and arrogant screeners of anywhere.

I can't imagine having them do a gate checl on top of their usual antics.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 2:02 pm
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I'm sure everyone has their own TSA post they love to hate, but in my experience FLL has the worst, most surly, poorly trained, incompetent, rude and arrogant screeners of anywhere.

I can't imagine having them do a gate checl on top of their usual antics.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 2:05 pm
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Old Aug 9, 07, 4:29 pm
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Gate Chek 101

[QUOTE=Andy1369;8199539]Also, I was thinking... we're VERY lucky that we don't have to go through security when transferring to another plane at a "hub" airport.[QUOTE]

Some hubs already do like NRT.

How about SIN? They have only gate checks. Going thru immigration is the only check into the airport. (Since there are no domestic flights, all pax are going international.) You can carry anything into the airport. Of course this is a country which strictly forbids private firearms, so I guess they assume no one has a gun to take into the airport.

SIN terrorists must be the most law abiding and well behaved anywhere if they follow the amusing sign at the gate door. Something like “If you have a gun in your suitcase, for the safety of the screeners do not let them find it during the search. Please inform them you have a gun so they may place it for safe keeping.”

OTOH, in spite of “Freedom Baggie” signs EVERYWHERE to the contrary, SIN does not require baggies out. Shoes stay ON. Only laptops come out into bins, but they give you a receipt which you use to claim it five feet away on the other side of the xray. (Who would have the stupidity to steal a laptop going into a sterile locked gate holding area?) Don't trip the WTMD and your total screening time is about 30 seconds. TSA could learn something there.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 5:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Flaflyer View Post
SIN does not require baggies out. Shoes stay ON. Only laptops come out into bins, but they give you a receipt which you use to claim it five feet away on the other side of the xray. (Who would have the stupidity to steal a laptop going into a sterile locked gate holding area?) Don't trip the WTMD and your total screening time is about 30 seconds. TSA could learn something there.
Now THATs how it should be done!!!
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Old Aug 9, 07, 6:43 pm
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there's annudder thread on "the surge" over here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=672524

could the moderators combine?
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