UK to get highly personal data on Brits

Old Aug 6, 07, 12:15 pm
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UK to get highly personal data on Brits

Nope not a misprint, the UK is joining the "Coalition of the W*nk*rs" with a new border control scheme which will require airlines & ferry companies to submit up to 50 items of data on each passenger between 24 and 48 hours before departure to AND from the UK.

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Wonder how they are going to handle crossing the land border between Northern Ireland & the Republic of Ireland - or people going to/from the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man or people who just decide to get a ferry to France to pick up some booze?
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Old Aug 6, 07, 1:24 pm
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Amazing. Notice how spin continues even after the spinmeister has gone? They're dressing it up as a measure to achieve payment of unpaid fines and to catch resident non-resident tax evaders. So that's all right then.

I just read the Garudian, couldn't stomach the Daily Murdoch.
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theres a good size thread on the same subject over here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=716892
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theres a good size thread on the same subject over here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=716892
No - that's a related but different story about supplying data to the US Department of Paranoia. This is about using similar data for the UK's own homegrown control freakery.
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I have to say that whilst I support the 'no fly if you owe fines' idea, I wonder what the EU will have to say.
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Depending on where I am coming from it can take over 24 hours travelling to get to the UK, does this mean I cannot book travel less than 3 days before that urgent meeting/funeral/party?

Just when you think it cannot get any worse, they find another reason to avoid UK transits.
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Old Aug 7, 07, 12:49 am
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I have to say that whilst I support the 'no fly if you owe fines' idea.
As a victim of a miscoded fine I do not support the concept of "no fly if you owe fines". It is particularly nasty to be told at the start of 2 days travelling to get to your destination that you have to leave your travel companions at the airport to go into the relevant authority's office (which is not open until Monday morning) to pay a (possibly large) fine you had no idea about (because it wasn't yours) and pray you can get rebooked for on flights the following day without a further hefty payment. Totally ruins a trip with no or limited recourse.
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NI, Republic of Ireland, Isle of Man and Channel Isles are in a Common Travel Area. However they can always invoke the Terrorism Act to achieve the same aims!!!!!!
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Old Aug 7, 07, 6:37 am
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NI, Republic of Ireland, Isle of Man and Channel Isles are in a Common Travel Area. However they can always invoke the Terrorism Act to achieve the same aims!!!!!!
Unless they intend imposing the 48 hour rule on travelling by train/car/bus/foot across the Irish border and for people travelling within the UK between NI & GB by ferry or plane then the system is crocked from the beginning. Ditto for the Channel Islands & the Isle of Man
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What a ghastly initiative.
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At first glance I thought this was one of those OMNI threads where someone posts a silly thread in response to another one. Obviously this is not the case.
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Information grabs, security cameras, control orders, "indeterminate sentences for public protection"/"imprisonment for public protection", and exit controls. The list keeps getting longer and George Orwell is not around to write a sequel or revise the title of his book.
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