UK to get highly personal data on Brits
Aug 6, 2007, 11:15 am
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UK to get highly personal data on Brits
Nope not a misprint, the UK is joining the "Coalition of the W*nk*rs" with a new border control scheme which will require airlines & ferry companies to submit up to 50 items of data on each passenger between 24 and 48 hours before departure to AND from the UK.
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Wonder how they are going to handle crossing the land border between Northern Ireland & the Republic of Ireland - or people going to/from the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man or people who just decide to get a ferry to France to pick up some booze?
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Wonder how they are going to handle crossing the land border between Northern Ireland & the Republic of Ireland - or people going to/from the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man or people who just decide to get a ferry to France to pick up some booze?
Aug 6, 2007, 12:24 pm
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Amazing. Notice how spin continues even after the spinmeister has gone? They're dressing it up as a measure to achieve payment of unpaid fines and to catch resident non-resident tax evaders. So that's all right then. 
I just read the Garudian, couldn't stomach the Daily Murdoch.
I just read the Garudian, couldn't stomach the Daily Murdoch.
Aug 6, 2007, 5:10 pm
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theres a good size thread on the same subject over here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=716892
Aug 6, 2007, 6:04 pm
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theres a good size thread on the same subject over here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=716892
Aug 6, 2007, 11:43 pm
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Depending on where I am coming from it can take over 24 hours travelling to get to the UK, does this mean I cannot book travel less than 3 days before that urgent meeting/funeral/party?
Just when you think it cannot get any worse, they find another reason to avoid UK transits.
Aug 6, 2007, 11:49 pm
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As a victim of a miscoded fine I do not support the concept of "no fly if you owe fines". It is particularly nasty to be told at the start of 2 days travelling to get to your destination that you have to leave your travel companions at the airport to go into the relevant authority's office (which is not open until Monday morning) to pay a (possibly large) fine you had no idea about (because it wasn't yours) and pray you can get rebooked for on flights the following day without a further hefty payment. Totally ruins a trip with no or limited recourse.
Aug 7, 2007, 5:37 am
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Unless they intend imposing the 48 hour rule on travelling by train/car/bus/foot across the Irish border and for people travelling within the UK between NI & GB by ferry or plane then the system is crocked from the beginning. Ditto for the Channel Islands & the Isle of Man
Aug 7, 2007, 8:17 pm
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Couldn't resist quoting this:
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Originally Posted by Roger Thornhill
Ugarte: Look Rick, do you know what this is? Something that even you have never seen. Letters of Transit digitally signed by Gordon Brown himself. Cannot be rescinded, not even questioned...
Aug 8, 2007, 1:38 am
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Information grabs, security cameras, control orders, "indeterminate sentences for public protection"/"imprisonment for public protection", and exit controls. The list keeps getting longer and George Orwell is not around to write a sequel or revise the title of his book. 