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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 7:09 am
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Originally Posted by sailman
I have flown in and out of AMS perhaps 50 times over these past 20 years, and have always found their security people to be very professional, polite, and tend to ask relevant questions. I for one am not surprised. Glad to hear you had a positive experience.
AMS is a freaking disaster. These ridiculous interrogations that peristed throughout the 1990s has made me avoid this airport, especially for a departing (to USA) gateway. The lounges also suck at AMS.

Professional my ...... What a waste of resources. They manage without this crap at FRA, CPH, LHR. And it predates 2001, so there is not even that lame excuse.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
A few years ago the ex-Mrs. GHF and I ........

Learned our lesson: we never traveled on separate flights again, though we did occasionally end up in separate cabins.
Sorry, the bait is way to big: no wonder she is ex-Mrs. GHF.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 7:16 am
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Originally Posted by JoeW
By the way, and on-topic, isn't those security people in Amsterdam put there by US gov't? I do not like Schipol at all, so I try to avoid it, but i think i remember US security on gates for flights to the US.

When flying from other airports, I guess the airline is hiring their own security people for extra-screening of pax flying to the US.
The "security" people at AMS that do the questioning for say NW flights to the US are not a requirement under Dutch government laws/regulations; and while they do feed into interfaces with the US government (including electronically) they are not on the US government payroll.

Personally, I don't enjoy paying to have my time wasted with stupid questions from "security", "security" that provides no security and needs a miracle to even "get lucky".
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by gnaget
Sorry, the bait is way to big: no wonder she is ex-Mrs. GHF.
Yeah, I set myself up for that.

Usually she was the one that ended up with the better seats when we flew separate cabins.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 12:29 pm
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I've spoke to some recently at AMS who believe the liquids ban is a good thing and "coming from Britain you should know how important it is", they got all excited when they found the 120ml bottle of contact lens solution I was hiding from them.
THERE we go. Some posters in the various contact lens threads have insisted screeners have taken a common-sense attitude towards their 120 ml of solution even when Europe doesn't have a medical exception (and nothing under 120 ml is commercially available). One more proof that paranoia is justified.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 7:01 am
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My college roommate, a surgeon, not prone to exaggeration, and a frequent world traveler, said that he will not go through Amsterdam again.

He felt that their questioning was almost hostile in nature, and that their frisking at the gate was "very intimate."

This was for a KLM (not NW) flight from Schipol to Boston earlier this year.

I'd like to think that his experience was an exception and not routine.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 7:21 am
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I have never been frisked at AMS in over 20 trips and the questioning is always quick and professional. FWIW I always remove the computer and shoes. At LHR and LGW I get frisked 100% using the same drill.

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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 7:25 am
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Originally Posted by Mats
My college roommate, a surgeon, not prone to exaggeration, and a frequent world traveler, said that he will not go through Amsterdam again.

He felt that their questioning was almost hostile in nature, and that their frisking at the gate was "very intimate."

This was for a KLM (not NW) flight from Schipol to Boston earlier this year.

I'd like to think that his experience was an exception and not routine.
There's a shaved head "security" person who often enough works the regular security screening checkpoint between the non-Schengen and Schengen areas at AMS and I've seen him stick his hands down people's pants more than once there when frisking people.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by gnaget
AMS is a freaking disaster. These ridiculous interrogations that peristed throughout the 1990s has made me avoid this airport, especially for a departing (to USA) gateway. The lounges also suck at AMS.
This is your personal opinion and you are entitled to it. But IMHO the KLM lounges in AMS beat pretty much any DL lounge I have seen except the business elite lounge in ATL.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by fti
This is your personal opinion and you are entitled to it. But IMHO the KLM lounges in AMS beat pretty much any DL lounge I have seen except the business elite lounge in ATL.
That's not saying a whole lot for the KLM lounges -- sort of akin to comparing rotten apples to rotten pears. That noted, my complaints about the KLM lounges have declined since they started providing me shower and internet access at no charge a few months back.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
There's a shaved head "security" person who often enough works the regular security screening checkpoint between the non-Schengen and Schengen areas at AMS and I've seen him stick his hands down people's pants more than once there when frisking people.
Let him try that on me. It would be a day he would never forget.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
You know, I often wonder what happens to be people who say "Nope, I didn't pack my bags, my wife packed them this morning."
Although we are all sick of people asking us that question, there really is a reason for it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nezar_Hindawi
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by dgolding
Although we are all sick of people asking us that question, there really is a reason for it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nezar_Hindawi
The questions won't find what a good search actually can find -- so there really is no good reason for the stupid questions.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by dgolding
Although we are all sick of people asking us that question, there really is a reason for it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nezar_Hindawi
I'm well aware of that incident but the question policy epitomizes just how dull headed airport security is these days. They decide to have this policy, ignoring everything else equally likely that could happen, and target this one thing just because it did happen.

That's not security, it's CYA.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
I'm well aware of that incident but the question policy epitomizes just how dull headed airport security is these days. They decide to have this policy, ignoring everything else equally likely that could happen, and target this one thing just because it did happen.

That's not security, it's CYA.
What, you want pro-active security? Sadly, I gave up on that some time ago.
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