I attacked nothing - stop the drama

No, it's not.

You made all of that up because you assume that if the TSA didn't handle airport security no one would.

Perhaps if you stopped assuming and actually read what was written you might find it unnecessary to blame others for your own comprehension problem?

just a thought...

I'm so tempted to make a comparison to the Nazi guards at Auschwitz, but that would be over the top, so I won't.

While the nature of the evil they do is lesser (owing simply to the fact that Americans currently have more economic liberty and therefore power to defend themselves from their government, for now), the root mentality is the same.

well this thread is just hilarious. comparing the TSA to us soliders and nazis. wasnt the OP about granny?

I'm glad more Americans, like the elderly lady mentioned, are speaking out against that joke of an organization we call the TSA.

A gang comes to your place of business with guns. Its leaders tell you they will protect you. You don't want them to do this. They insist and by force remain in the area and demand that you pay them. You don't want to, but in order to not be encaged or attacked, you pay them so that you obey and pay them so you can go about your business.

Is it moral for the gang to do this? Would you object to their doing it?

No one equated the TSA workers with Nazis. He just pointed out that their line of defense is exactly the same.

It is.

It starts with the idea that a human being has the right to forcibly make another human being do what he wants, against that person's will.

No one is equating the evil done by Nazis with that done by the TSA workers. What the TSA workers do is still immoral and destructive though.

Do you have relatives that were guards?

The mentality, "We just did what we were told", has been used to defend some of the most heinous acts in this world.

I flew to dozens of countries last year, almost 200,000 miles in total. I see how security is run, how logical it can be done. Pretending that the TSA is going to be your savior is just ostrich-like behavior.

I've flown domestic flights in countries where I didn't show ID to check in. I didn't take my shoes off. I brought liquids on the plane. Strangely enough, the planes aren't falling out of the sky in this country.

As I recall, the US didn't even start to do any security checks on passengers until 1970 or so, after a plane was hijacked. Do we need security screening? Sure. Do we need hundreds of stupid rules that don't really make a difference? No. When very few of the items in the hold have been x-rayed, or checked it's quite ridiculous to say that the plane is secure.

The emperor has no clothes.

Whatever it is you "think" has no bearing on anyone but you - please understand that, thanks.

Where there's a will there's a way. If an attack happens why would they do something we are already on alert for?

Instead of being retroactive (shoes, liquids) TSA should be more proactive at finding things that actually may be a threat. Puffers aren't even being used at most airports and I haven't been to any airport that used the puffer to screen everyone. That naked picture thing won't solve the problem either.

Has anyone tried to make a shoe bomb since Reid?

I don't understand why people blow up planes to begin with. Seems kinda wimpy to me.

Big deal, you're a FAM. You take my FC upgrade seat, leave your guns in bathrooms, and waste money from the already bloated government budget.

How many countries to you fly to? Do you go through all the normal security procedures that we do? I think not.

I asked you about a gang you do not approve of, not one that benefits you. I think we both know you would oppose a gang doing something you didn't want them to do and forcing you to pay for it. Just as the TSA does to us. The only difference here is that the TSA benefits you. Not very consistent of you.

The TSA is a gang of thugs out to enrich themselves. Nothing more.