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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 6:25 pm
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Originally Posted by TierFlyer
Two data points let you draw a line, but not accurately.
If someone can't accurately draw a line between two points, they're missing a few tools in the shed, the shed that is the head.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by TierFlyer
You say. Yawn.

I have a friend who quit his job with Glaxo to go run IT security for a (very small) part of the TSA. He's smarter than most people. Ahem.
Did you miss that "[f]ew shining points ..... but they are in the vast, vast minority"?

Accepting the claim of a person being "smarter than most people" doesn't necessarily inspire confidence. It's not hard to appear smarter than 50.00001% of the world population.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 6:55 pm
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Please help steer this discussion back to topic brought up by the OP or it'll be considered for closure.

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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 7:14 pm
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It'll be interesting to see if there are more letters to the editor in the coming days, especially given the growth in the number of unique individuals subjected to the latest TSA measures courtesy of the holiday travel.

Too bad there's no easy way to gauge that.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 11:53 pm
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I find it interesting that this letter to the editor was written (and presumably published) with a tongue-in-cheek attitude. Obviously, almost all who read it can commiserate with it and see the sarcasm. Is this a signpost to a dangerous future as we become increasingly more innured to the erosion of our entitlements as Americans, or the beginnings of a seethe prior to boil-over?

At any rate, it keeps the eyes of the unwashed masses on the TSA more than if it had NOT been published, I suppose.

I'd like to ask ALL FT'ers if ALL of them have written letters to the editors of the local paper. Have you? Hmmm... idea for a new thread!
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 6:33 pm
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Though I do not enjoy the extra security, and in times I really have a hard time not getting pissed off, I do not blame them. They are just doing their jobs. I do blame the airlines for making things even harder when they can in fact help make the situation easier. We are not customers of the TSA, but are 100% paying customers of the airlines. Their service is horrid, and its getting more and more expensive each time to just get worse and worse service. Nothing we can do really.. yet. The day will come and this level of service won't exist. Hoping within my lifetime.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by LorienN
Though I do not enjoy the extra security, and in times I really have a hard time not getting pissed off, I do not blame them. They are just doing their jobs. I do blame the airlines for making things even harder when they can in fact help make the situation easier. We are not customers of the TSA, but are 100% paying customers of the airlines. Their service is horrid, and its getting more and more expensive each time to just get worse and worse service. Nothing we can do really.. yet. The day will come and this level of service won't exist. Hoping within my lifetime.
We are unwilling customers of TSA, and we pay their salaries with our tax dollars. Those facts make the bad jokes that occur daily at checkpoints inexcusable.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
If someone can't accurately draw a line between two points, they're missing a few tools in the shed, the shed that is the head.
Take any lab courses in college? You need a lot more than two data points to draw a line (curved/straight) accurate - imagine the Laffer curve with only two data points at the beginning.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Did you miss that "[f]ew shining points ..... but they are in the vast, vast minority"?
Well, I know three total people in the TSA and two are "normal" and one is very very bright.

Therefore am I free to assume that they are above average?
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 9:20 pm
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Originally Posted by TierFlyer
Originally Posted by GUWonder
If someone can't accurately draw a line between two points, they're missing a few tools in the shed, the shed that is the head
Take any lab courses in college? You need a lot more than two data points to draw a line (curved/straight) accurate - imagine the Laffer curve with only two data points at the beginning.
It's well possible to draw a line, as in a straight line, connecting two data points. In euclidean geometry, there is only one line which can be found/made that connects two data points. If someone can't draw a line, as in a straight line, connecting two data points, they have issues and are missing a few tools in the shed that is the head. A curve is not a straight line. When people refer to a line, they are generally referring to a line as definied in euclidean geometry -- that is a straight line, which is well possible to make with two data points. While a line, as in a straight line, might be classified as a curve, specifically a straight curve, most curves cannot be classified as a line, as in a straight line. To equate a line, as in a straight line, with a non-straight curve just doesn't fly mathematically without a few tools in the shed missing.

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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 7:28 am
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We are unwilling customers of TSA, and we pay their salaries with our tax dollars. Those facts make the bad jokes that occur daily at checkpoints inexcusable.
Maybe, doesnt change the fact that we are willing customers of the airlines. Yet, we get horrid service, pay more daily for it, and have less and less options to get better service. I have way too many examples on how the airline in the end is the one that causes the problems and not the TSA. The situation is way out of line.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 7:37 am
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Exclamation

Originally Posted by VideoPaul
Reminder: The TSA has NOTHING AT ALL to do with security. It is a giant, $6BB a year federal jobs program and nothing more. It employs the unemployable. Few shining points of security exist (Bart) but they are in the vast, vast minority.

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I knew when the public was screaming for a government program of TSA after 9/11-this is the mess it would cause. I do not blame the president but the newscasters and the public. I believe this could of been handled better with what was already in place with new training. But the news and the public and the polls seem to dictate the end result.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 7:56 am
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I knew when the public was screaming for a government program of TSA after 9/11-this is the mess it would cause. I do not blame the president but the newscasters and the public. I believe this could of been handled better with what was already in place with new training. But the news and the public and the polls seem to dictate the end result.
Yes, I've really noticed a tendency on this president's part to do exactly what the people and news media want.
 
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Never Mind, decided to not feed the trolls.

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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 8:42 am
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Originally Posted by tlhanger
I knew when the public was screaming for a government program of TSA after 9/11-this is the mess it would cause. I do not blame the president but the newscasters and the public. I believe this could of been handled better with what was already in place with new training. But the news and the public and the polls seem to dictate the end result.
The "public" are stupid though. you can't blame people for stupidity.
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