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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
How do you know it's so unlikely? In fact, this is a clear threat area given how often these bags are out of the crew member's control.

There are alot of holes in the system - but this one requires the status quo to keep it plugged - and that means screening for all. No exceptions. The TSA staff should be fully screened each and every time they leave the sterile area as well.
It is unlikely because there are so many easier ways to get contraband past the sterile areas. Everyone is focusing on the checkpoint as a breach point when in reality the flanks are exposed.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by vassilipan
It is unlikely because there are so many easier ways to get contraband past the sterile areas. Everyone is focusing on the checkpoint as a breach point when in reality the flanks are exposed.
I already pointed out how through-the-fence ops are obvious breach points (not that I don't strongly support through-the-fence ops in principal, because I do) - but that doesn't mean we open a new breach point because we feel sorry for airline staff having to endure the same suffering as the rest of us.

Screening airline staff is an easy, cost-free exercise to make sure that everyone entering the sterile area has played by the same rules - knowingly or otherwise.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 3:14 pm
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The screening of crew actually started in 1987, with PSA 1771. A fired employee used his credentials to bypass the security line with a gun. He shot and killed a flight crew, which led to a crash and the death of everyone on board.

A more recent incident (1994) was FedEx 705. A disgruntled flight engineer brought aboard hammers and spear gun, intending to disable or kill the crew then crash the jet into FedEx's HQ in Memphis. The crew was able to fight him off and land the plane.

As I've mentioned here before, I'm not for any pass for "good" people. That always assumes they can't be tricked, bribed, or extorted in to not being "good".
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by alanh
The screening of crew actually started in 1987, with PSA 1771. A fired employee used his credentials to bypass the security line with a gun. He shot and killed a flight crew, which led to a crash and the death of everyone on board.

Yep
That crash also claimed several high level Chevron Oil Execs at the time.
I read the NTSB report on it and it said that the guy put the plane into the ground, but shot himself just before impact.

Good reason that everyone should be screened.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by vassilipan
It is unlikely because there are so many easier ways to get contraband past the sterile areas. Everyone is focusing on the checkpoint as a breach point when in reality the flanks are exposed.
You're right that there are other areas of concern aside from the checkpoint, but I don't see how creating a big hole in checkpoint screening (people wearing uniforms wouldn't be screened) improves things. Usually plumbers don't fix leaks by intentionally creating new ones.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:20 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
It's bad enough that through-the-fence ops like cleaners, cargo, catering, etc. are not properly screened before entering the AOA. Neither employees nor their work-related or personal items are screened before entering the AOA from these airport tenants.
Not to mention every single employee working for UA at ORD that parks in the remote lots...no screening what so ever!
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