Paris airport bars Muslim staff
Nov 3, 2006 | 3:38 pm
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'Did you know that French people everywhere in the world are named frogs? It's true! You must have heard it, of course; frogs. And if you put yourselves this question, I also am called a frog. It is not an insult, actually, it is a compliment. I always wanted to know why and where this whole thing began'
and in French...
'Aviez-vous que les francophones partout dans le monde sont nommes des grenouilles ? Et oui ! Vous avez bien entendu ; des grenouilles. Et si vous vous posez cette question, moi aussi je me fais appeller une grenouille. Ce n'est pas une insulte, en realite, c'est un compliment.'
There is absolutely no good reason to slur another person. I don't care if it is race, color, religion, gender, national origin, job, sexual orientation, disability, whatever. If you can't have the respect for other people to leave the petty name calling behind, then you are no better than those you chose to degrade.
Why is it that people chose to slander police by making up names such as 'pig' and think that it is no big deal (I know, they volunteered for that job, they can quit anytime...), but it is not OK to call someone a ...., or Ni***r, or Frog, or Hadji, or any other degrading term?
and in French...
'Aviez-vous que les francophones partout dans le monde sont nommes des grenouilles ? Et oui ! Vous avez bien entendu ; des grenouilles. Et si vous vous posez cette question, moi aussi je me fais appeller une grenouille. Ce n'est pas une insulte, en realite, c'est un compliment.'
There is absolutely no good reason to slur another person. I don't care if it is race, color, religion, gender, national origin, job, sexual orientation, disability, whatever. If you can't have the respect for other people to leave the petty name calling behind, then you are no better than those you chose to degrade.
Why is it that people chose to slander police by making up names such as 'pig' and think that it is no big deal (I know, they volunteered for that job, they can quit anytime...), but it is not OK to call someone a ...., or Ni***r, or Frog, or Hadji, or any other degrading term?
Nov 3, 2006 | 3:44 pm
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I keep seeing this thread title on the FT homepage and it reminds me of the disconnect between the title and reality at Paris airport. Paris airport does not bar muslim staff. A fraction of the muslim staff members and some other non-muslim staff members at Paris-CDG airport have lost their security-related clearance. The rest of Paris airport muslim staff continue to work there -- although a strike protesting local government discrimination isn't off the table. 
For once again the unions are protesting.
More seriously, glad to see the unions still stand by their muslim union members in the absence of a trial showing wrongdoing.
For once again the unions are protesting.
More seriously, glad to see the unions still stand by their muslim union members in the absence of a trial showing wrongdoing.
Nov 3, 2006 | 3:56 pm
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Oh what's this, discrimination against Hindus and Sikhs working at CDG too. 
The authorities involved in this matter presumed that some Sri Lankan workers' money transfers and visits to Sri Lanka were linked to "potentially terrorist aims". And the same for an Indian sikh transferring money to his elderly parents.
Visiting family members and financially helping out family members is now an automatic security risk?
These idiots need to get their act together instead of smearing ethnic minorities with the "security risk" and "potentially terrorist aims" brush. If there is wrongdoing, charge, convict and prosecute in the court of law.
The authorities involved in this matter presumed that some Sri Lankan workers' money transfers and visits to Sri Lanka were linked to "potentially terrorist aims". And the same for an Indian sikh transferring money to his elderly parents.
Visiting family members and financially helping out family members is now an automatic security risk?
These idiots need to get their act together instead of smearing ethnic minorities with the "security risk" and "potentially terrorist aims" brush. If there is wrongdoing, charge, convict and prosecute in the court of law.
Nov 3, 2006 | 3:58 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Oh what's this, discrimination against Hindus and Sikhs working at CDG too.
The authorities involved in this matter presumed that some Sri Lankan workers' money transfers and visits to Sri Lanka were linked to "potentially terrorist aims". And the same for an Indian sikh transferring money to his elderly parents.
Visiting family members and financially helping out family members is now an automatic security risk?
The authorities involved in this matter presumed that some Sri Lankan workers' money transfers and visits to Sri Lanka were linked to "potentially terrorist aims". And the same for an Indian sikh transferring money to his elderly parents.
Visiting family members and financially helping out family members is now an automatic security risk?
Nov 3, 2006 | 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by etch5895
Link, bitte?
Sarkozy is a bigot. And his staff has leakers, just like he is.
Nov 3, 2006 | 4:01 pm
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Badges were also taken away from "just under a dozen" people suspected of links to Sri Lankan Tamil Tiger rebels as well as from one Sikh worker.
Another 40 employees at the airport were being investigated as posing a possible security risk, Mr Lebrot said.
Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said the move was necessary as a "precaution".
"It's quite right that the police services conduct inquiries and only certify those people we are certain about," he said.
Another 40 employees at the airport were being investigated as posing a possible security risk, Mr Lebrot said.
Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said the move was necessary as a "precaution".
"It's quite right that the police services conduct inquiries and only certify those people we are certain about," he said.
.... help family out after a tsunami and lose your job because you are Tamil.
This thread would better be titled "French authorities on ethnic minority witchhunt at Paris airport".
Nov 3, 2006 | 4:12 pm
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http://www.lefigaro.fr/english/20061...at_roissy.html
This is from Le Figaro, translated to English. It doesn't really shed any new light on the situation.
This is from Le Figaro, translated to English. It doesn't really shed any new light on the situation.
Nov 3, 2006 | 4:21 pm
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Originally Posted by etch5895
http://www.lefigaro.fr/english/20061...at_roissy.html
This is from Le Figaro, translated to English. It doesn't really shed any new light on the situation.
This is from Le Figaro, translated to English. It doesn't really shed any new light on the situation.
It does shed light on Sarkozy and his supporters' thinking.
"This was not a case of profiling," Nicolas Sarkozy maintained; "there were specific factors that motivated us to bar them entry. I cannot accept people with a radical practice working at an airport platform." At the same time, he emphasized that the employees do not have to have "links with radical organizations, neither close nor distant". "Perhaps there was a mistake," the interior minister also mentioned, "but let them (the employees) then defend their rights in court."
Nov 3, 2006 | 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by etch5895
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and in French...
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Oh yeah that person is a real Frenchman who does not know how to differentiate between the verb "etre" and "avoir" and he believes that he is being complimented
Now, now I would like to see you being called derogatory names because of your religion or your ethnicity or the colour of your skin. It is nice to be a preacher when one is not in the shoe of an Indian being called a certain epithet by some ignoramus because it is cool and he has seen it on South Park.
What would you say about the mafiosi from the North and East coast (from different ethnic backgrounds - Irish/Italian and Jewish) of the 20s/30s/40 who called the police the "fuzz"? Is that slander or just name calling?
and in French...
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Aviez-vous que les francophones partout dans le monde sont nommes des grenouilles ? Et oui ! Vous avez bien entendu ; des grenouilles. Et si vous vous posez cette question, moi aussi je me fais appeller une grenouille. Ce n'est pas une insulte, en realite, c'est un compliment
Oh yeah that person is a real Frenchman who does not know how to differentiate between the verb "etre" and "avoir" and he believes that he is being complimented
Why is it that people chose to slander police by making up names such as 'pig' and think that it is no big deal (I know, they volunteered for that job, they can quit anytime...), but it is not OK to call someone a ...., or Ni***r, or Frog, or Hadji, or any other degrading term?
What would you say about the mafiosi from the North and East coast (from different ethnic backgrounds - Irish/Italian and Jewish) of the 20s/30s/40 who called the police the "fuzz"? Is that slander or just name calling?
Nov 3, 2006 | 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by sithlord
I guess the terrorist european colonizers get to enjoy getting to know how it is to be colonized and invadaded. Perhaps their women will enjoy the fruits of this diversity.
Nov 3, 2006 | 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Thanks.
It does shed light on Sarkozy and his supporters' thinking.
With his attitude of "prove your innocence as we presume guilt", I hope he never becomes President (or even Prime Minister). He's not even deserving of his current portfolio in the cabinet.
It does shed light on Sarkozy and his supporters' thinking.
With his attitude of "prove your innocence as we presume guilt", I hope he never becomes President (or even Prime Minister). He's not even deserving of his current portfolio in the cabinet.
Nov 3, 2006 | 5:58 pm
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Lets see...Religion, ethnicity and we'll even throw in employment.
Godless heathen (because I'm not a bible thumpin' Christian, or a Koran thumpin' Muslim, or a Torah/Talmud thumpin' Jewish person)
Cracker (more appropriately godd***ed cracker)
Pig (because I have in fact been a police officer)
Have I called anyone by any ethnic slurs? No. Have I thought them to myself? Yes, I am sad to say that I have. The internal struggle with my own stereotypes is a very real thing and I deal with it everyday. I am human. I have watched South Park, and I have laughed at quite a bit of it. Not with the intent of being mean to any ethnic group, but because for whatever reason I have found humor in the entire package. Another fallicy? Yes, and I am human. I don't, however, go out and parrot what I see on South Park (which, by the way, I haven't seen in at least 3 years).
And that still does not make it all right to call police officers 'pigs'.
Godless heathen (because I'm not a bible thumpin' Christian, or a Koran thumpin' Muslim, or a Torah/Talmud thumpin' Jewish person)
Cracker (more appropriately godd***ed cracker)
Pig (because I have in fact been a police officer)
Have I called anyone by any ethnic slurs? No. Have I thought them to myself? Yes, I am sad to say that I have. The internal struggle with my own stereotypes is a very real thing and I deal with it everyday. I am human. I have watched South Park, and I have laughed at quite a bit of it. Not with the intent of being mean to any ethnic group, but because for whatever reason I have found humor in the entire package. Another fallicy? Yes, and I am human. I don't, however, go out and parrot what I see on South Park (which, by the way, I haven't seen in at least 3 years).
And that still does not make it all right to call police officers 'pigs'.
Nov 3, 2006 | 6:09 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Oh what's this, discrimination against Hindus and Sikhs working at CDG too.
The authorities involved in this matter presumed that some Sri Lankan workers' money transfers and visits to Sri Lanka were linked to "potentially terrorist aims". And the same for an Indian sikh transferring money to his elderly parents.
Visiting family members and financially helping out family members is now an automatic security risk?
These idiots need to get their act together instead of smearing ethnic minorities with the "security risk" and "potentially terrorist aims" brush. If there is wrongdoing, charge, convict and prosecute in the court of law.
The authorities involved in this matter presumed that some Sri Lankan workers' money transfers and visits to Sri Lanka were linked to "potentially terrorist aims". And the same for an Indian sikh transferring money to his elderly parents.
Visiting family members and financially helping out family members is now an automatic security risk?
These idiots need to get their act together instead of smearing ethnic minorities with the "security risk" and "potentially terrorist aims" brush. If there is wrongdoing, charge, convict and prosecute in the court of law.
Nov 3, 2006 | 7:06 pm
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Originally Posted by etch5895
How about no slurs for any group, protected catagory or not.
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