God almighty. I'm astounded. Ridiculous!

This garbage won't stop until out-of-control government agents are themselves arrested and charged.

They don't care, for the most part; and about those who do care, well, they don't really get it.

The ACLU might be another avenue to pursue
 

Dear EastWest ,
Best of luck, if/when you decide to take legal action. I don't know what the ACLU could do for you, but it seems like a phone call to them , among others, might grow out some good feedback from this fertilizer patch you went through.

And, of course, travel to any country that applies the same visa-waiver rules as the USA is now significantly more hassle. (The US Visa Waiver programme is not available to anyone who has ever been arrested, even if not convicted of any offence.)

As I mentioned, I went through the training a long time ago, but it involved a lot more than 36 hours of classroom. I had to do 50 "supervised" exams that were verified by lab tests before I was considered to be certified as a DRE. Had I been wrong, even once, I wouldn't have received the certification.

Did you get your ball back?

It was several pages back in the thread. He got back all the bits of rubberband after they cut it in half, thereby ensuring our national security.

If that's to the OP -- he got to leave with a baggie full of cut rubber bands. They cut the ball open at the police station per his post.

I just stumbled on this thread and I am appalled at the treatment the OP received. I urge the OP to pursue this further by contacting legal counsel; this sounds on the face of it to be a clear case of false arrest and imprisonment.

This kind of egregious mistreatment is an affront to the Constitution and should not go unpunished.

I agree on this point. If this transpired as written, it smacks of the "law enforcement mentality" at work. It's not an issue of TSA policies or national politics. But your garden-variety loser-LEO's on a powertrip.

The only way to rectify such things is to toss it to the legal system.

There is a wide misconception that asking or demanding a lawyer after your arrest will actually yield one. The fact of the matter is that the questioning will stop and you may be provided with a phone and phone book so you can find one you wish to call.

This only means you will not be asked any questions related to the crime..... but it wont stop any booking/fingerprinting process and holding you until your arraignment. When you are in Court, you can request an attorney at the expense of the state, after they have determined you eligibility on the basis of your lack of ability to pay for one yourself. This can be quiet a while after the arrest.

You are not typically asked if you were arrested ... the question is usually were you convicted of a crime.....


Expungement is hard to do.... the computer systems are easy to enter info into, getting any info off is unlikely.

If you were arrested there is a high likelyhood it wont show up. On a conviction it will though. The only way arrestes typically show up is if you are booked into a county jail.

Arrests where you are released from the police department on your promise to appear (like something you sign) typically dont appear on criminal history records.

While I understand your post, I don't understand it's reference to the post you quoted. :confused:

You're talking about the booking process and getting an attorney - the post you quoted addresses the fact the OP was detained without cause for 12 hours, arrested on trumped up charges, etc. There is a question as to whether the LEO actually has the training to use the "flashlight" in the eyes to create sufficient cause for an arrest (other posters indicated those with training would've had more than just a flashlight to come up with that result and that there aren't that many officers out there with the appropriate training to even do that) and that the OP continued to be held when every reason they might have held him legally was shown to be false and bs.

What do the two posts have to do with each other? :confused:

Not if you want to get into the USA you're not - any arrest (even were you to win a case of false arrest) makes you ineligible for the Visa Waiver programme.