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Spiff Oct 29, 2006 11:27 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder
If someone on a powertrip gets away with such a thing once, the likelihood increases that they will become inured to arresting and jailing people on questionable bases and do it again with someone else.

^ ^

Please pursue this with an attorney.

The FlyerTalk TOS prevents me from suggesting what should really happen to both the arresting officer and the TSAhole who harassed you.

SpaceCoastBill Oct 29, 2006 11:39 pm

QUOTE

." He said, "I don't believe you. Turn around and put your right hand behind your back." He snapped on handcuffs and said I was under arrest for suspicion of being under the influence of a controlled substance.

UNQUOTE


You cannot arrest anybody in this country for SUSPICION for anything. The Officer must have probable cause.


Do yourself a favor.

SUE the Officer, department, and airport for the false arrest.

It is the only way they will learn.

#10 Oct 29, 2006 11:57 pm

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The only equitable solution here given eastwest's stated facts is for the LEO to construct a rubberband ball of similar size and return it to eastwest.

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Palal Oct 30, 2006 12:07 am

OP - definitely get an attorney and pursue this matter further! Which airport was this?

To everyone else, I have a feeling some of this nonsense will end in about 3 weeks, after the election.

tmorse6570 Oct 30, 2006 12:16 am

I guess the moral of these stories is:

Pay attention to name badges and remember to get names if ever having a problem.
Know the phone numbers of local TV stations and a lawyer.
And, if you even think it might raise suspicion, don't take it carry-on.
Oh, and, have pad and pen always at the ready to jot down info hopefully before being handcuffed.
What year is this?

GUWonder Oct 30, 2006 12:51 am


Originally Posted by tmorse6570
I guess the moral of these stories is:

Pay attention to name badges and remember to get names if ever having a problem.
Know the phone numbers of local TV stations and a lawyer.
And, if you even think it might raise suspicion, don't take it carry-on.
Oh, and, have pad and pen always at the ready to jot down info hopefully before being handcuffed.
What year is this?

22 years after 1984. New America Year 5.

n5667 Oct 30, 2006 12:51 am


Originally Posted by stockmanjr
This is quite different than what occured with the other person who was arrested.I'm kinda lost why they didnt cut open the thing right away to see what was in it?I mean that would have made everyones life easier! Sometimes these cops cross the line and dont think and certainly this is the case here.I'm sorry this happend to you eastwest and hopefully you can go after the idiot cop in the way of a lawsuit.I find the cop even more at fault than the TSA here..I'm not sure why it looked metalic on the xray I'm sure someone who has more expertise here could comment on that.
Cheers
howie

Our X-Rays are not generally that powerful, anything dense enough will appear opaque, so the operator may have mistaken that for metal, rather than simply density.

Anywho, interesting story, but this being the internet and all...

GUWonder Oct 30, 2006 1:06 am


Originally Posted by n5667
Anywho, interesting story, but this being the internet and all...

.... the results are no different than anything else in the world. ;)

xanthuos Oct 30, 2006 2:06 am


Originally Posted by tmorse6570
I guess the moral of these stories is:
And, if you even think it might raise suspicion, don't take it carry-on.

But I'd do that just to challenge the authority.

OP, I understand your dilemma with not wanting to cause further difficulties in your travels...but as an American citizen, I would thank you wholeheartedly for challenging this whole situation and getting those involved punished for inappropriate actions...even if you yourself are not a US citizen, think of your fellow countrymen and other persons from foreign lands that it becomes "ok" to hassle because they don't fight back.

Also, a key for the future...the magic phrase is "Am I under arrest?" and if the answer is no, then you can express your desire to freely continue your movements.

Punki Oct 30, 2006 2:30 am

I am so sorry, eastwest. Harassment is the pits.

Back in 2002, I had a similar incident. Although I must admit that being marched at gunpoint out of the secured area is inherently preferable to spending a night in jail.

Contact the Wall Street Journal. They picked up my story, which led to some interesting phone calls from newspapers, radio and TV stations all over the country, and a noticeable improvement in the behavior of the security agents at the check point involved. ;)

TTT Oct 30, 2006 3:11 am


Originally Posted by Punki
I am so sorry, eastwest. Harassment is the pits.

Back in 2002, I had a similar incident. Although I must admit that being marched at gunpoint out of the secured area is inherently preferable to spending a night in jail.

Contact the Wall Street Journal. They picked up my story, which led to some interesting phone calls from newspapers, radio and TV stations all over the country, and a noticeable improvement in the behavior of the security agents at the check point involved. ;)

I hadn't heard about this. Thanks for posting it again. I can't help but feel a slight sense of nostalgia when reading it though. It is almost like the good old days gone by. :rolleyes: :(

FinsUp99 Oct 30, 2006 3:51 am

When the lawsuit check arrives, I suggest going somewhere warm for a nice vacation. Driving there might not be a bad idea either. :p

lianluo Oct 30, 2006 4:57 am


Originally Posted by billinaz
QUOTE

." He said, "I don't believe you. Turn around and put your right hand behind your back." He snapped on handcuffs and said I was under arrest for suspicion of being under the influence of a controlled substance.

UNQUOTE


You cannot arrest anybody in this country for SUSPICION for anything. The Officer must have probable cause.


Do yourself a favor.

SUE the Officer, department, and airport for the false arrest.

It is the only way they will learn.

Absolutely. An officer like this has probably done this before and it NEEDS to be brought to the attention of his supervisors. Who knows, you may be the final complaint that is needed to get rid of this guy.

exerda Oct 30, 2006 8:30 am


Originally Posted by Spiff
^ ^

Please pursue this with an attorney.

The FlyerTalk TOS prevents me from suggesting what should really happen to both the arresting officer and the TSAhole who harassed you.

Given what you routinely say about Comrades Hawley and Chertoff, you must really have something to say about the LEO and TSO in this case to keep you mum on it. :eek:

Spiff Oct 30, 2006 8:38 am


Originally Posted by exerda
Given what you routinely say about Comrades Hawley and Chertoff, you must really have something to say about the LEO and TSO in this case to keep you mum on it. :eek:

Indeed I do. Although TSO is a term I'll never use, no matter what titles the TSA "leaders" bestow upon their drones.


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