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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 8:55 am
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it's OK to deny computer access without due process because there's no "right to use a computer" expressed in the Constitution.
Why did you have to bring this up and remind them? Next they will figure out there is no "right to fly in turbojet powered aircraft" and no "right to be free from idiots working for DHS" in the Constitution either.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 8:56 am
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So what does Chertoff want? Web filtering at the national level like they have in China?
As part of a post-disasater "recovery" measure? I'd hope not, but these are the same "leaders" that gave us FEMA's most publicized failure, amongst other major failures.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 3:57 pm
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Terrorist use of the Internet is actually a big deal. Chertoff is right.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Doppy
Terrorist use of the Internet is actually a big deal. Chertoff is right.
I don't believe we should restrict or monitor the 99.99+% of lawful internet use just for the possibility of catching the 0.01-% of unlawful use.

Civil liberties should trump the illusion of security every time.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Doppy
Terrorist use of the Internet is actually a big deal. Chertoff is right.
Chertoff isn't right about anything, except .... No, Chertoff isn't right about anything.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 4:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Doppy
Terrorist use of the Internet is actually a big deal. Chertoff is right.
Or perhaps you were referring to the terrorist web site www.dhs.gov ?
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Spiff
I don't believe we should restrict or monitor the 99.99+% of lawful internet use just for the possibility of catching the 0.01-% of unlawful use.

Civil liberties should trump the illusion of security every time.
I'm not suggesting we restrict the use of the Internet of monitor users. But if we know that certain sites are being used to recruit terrorists and give them taskings, I don't think we should ignore that information either.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 4:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Doppy
I'm not suggesting we restrict the use of the Internet of monitor users. But if we know that certain sites are being used to recruit terrorists and give them taskings, I don't think we should ignore that information either.
If there's warrants, probable cause and the other components of a legitimate criminal investigation, you have a point.

However, Comrade Chertoff is not known for following such procedures.

I hope there's a tip line so I can report www.dhs.gov for terrorist activity.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 4:28 pm
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MICROSOFT ANNOUNCES NEW SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS FOR WINDOWS DHS EDITION


-Redmond Washington-
Microsoft announces a new security enhancment for windows version DHS. DHS will supercede all preexisting windows version. Some of the new features will include a fingerprint and DNA analysis upon login which will be automatically routed to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Also a new safety feature will require each person logging onto Windows DHS edition to show a government issued ID.

When asked how he felt about it, Secretary Chertoff said "I feel that today we have won a victory in the war on terror." He then showed how the security features will work, a process which took him about an hour to log into Windows DHS. And after logging in he repeatedly needed to scan his ID through the system. He was succesfully able to send an email through which should get to it's final destination sometime next week.

If terrorists use Windows, we have nothing to worry about.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Spiff
I hope there's a tip line so I can report www.dhs.gov for terrorist activity.
http://www.dhs.gov/xinfoshare/reportincidents/
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 4:48 pm
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 5:00 pm
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I should feel bad that I started giggling when I saw the "terror alert" badge. But I do not feel bad.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 5:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Doppy
I'm not suggesting we restrict the use of the Internet of monitor users. But if we know that certain sites are being used to recruit terrorists and give them taskings, I don't think we should ignore that information either.
Believe me, they're not ignoring it. That's all I'll say.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 5:32 pm
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Of course the government isn't ignoring it. They are even overreacting to some of the internet postings -- for example, like today with the football stadium games and radioactive dirty bomb nonsense. The government says this particular threat is not credible yet spread the story around anyway. Government doubletalk, idiocy.

There is massive amounts of money being spent by the US government to monitor the internet on massive scales. A lot of this is wasted and some of the idiocy involving foreign language (including romanized foreign language) postings is stunning. This is not a government that inspires confidence.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
This is not a government that inspires confidence.
Cannot be repeated often enough.
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