TSA as MD
#31
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 757
Originally Posted by PDX-PLT
If the Dems win in November, I suspect the Powers That Be will keep this up, to maintain the Fear Factor as high as possible. If the neocons retain control, maybe they'll feel confident enough that they can relax things a bit.
#32
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Northwest Georgia
Programs: Delta, Hilton, ICH, Hertz
Posts: 302
Originally Posted by bollar
You should -- It's absolutely unacceptable for the TSA to tell her how to manage her disease.
But as an aside, tuna and cream cheese? Both have negligible carbohydrates. If I went low, I'd definitely opt for the pretzels!
But as an aside, tuna and cream cheese? Both have negligible carbohydrates. If I went low, I'd definitely opt for the pretzels!
The OP needs to contact the American Diabetes Association about this stupidity. They have a very good track record of forcing the government to remove barriers (even stupid ones like the TSA) for people with diabetes.
- Alan
#33
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP/4MM, QF PLT, Marriott PLT
Posts: 1,425
Originally Posted by GeorgiaRebel
Except for the cream cheese, this is what I normally pack to handle my blood sugar. Crackers for the carbs and tuna for the protein to help the carbs not be absorbed as quickly.
The OP needs to contact the American Diabetes Association about this stupidity. They have a very good track record of forcing the government to remove barriers (even stupid ones like the TSA) for people with diabetes.
The OP needs to contact the American Diabetes Association about this stupidity. They have a very good track record of forcing the government to remove barriers (even stupid ones like the TSA) for people with diabetes.
#34
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Colorado
Programs: TSA
Posts: 2,745
Originally Posted by Cookie Jarvis
That is just awful.
My father takes a large amount of prescription medication each day (he's had a liver and a kidney transplant). Normally he keeps them in one of those plastic pill separators, but since this latest TSA stupidity, I advised him he might be better off bringing all 13 prescription bottles with him instead.
I advised him that if he EVER had a problem with TSA not understanding the necessity, to keep asking for a Supervisor, and if he didn't get any satisfaction from TSA, to ask for an airline reprsentative or the GSC, he is to be calm and polite, but he is not to take no for an answer no matter what. I am pretty confident in the case of medical necessities the airline representative or GSC would be the voice of reason.
My father takes a large amount of prescription medication each day (he's had a liver and a kidney transplant). Normally he keeps them in one of those plastic pill separators, but since this latest TSA stupidity, I advised him he might be better off bringing all 13 prescription bottles with him instead.
I advised him that if he EVER had a problem with TSA not understanding the necessity, to keep asking for a Supervisor, and if he didn't get any satisfaction from TSA, to ask for an airline reprsentative or the GSC, he is to be calm and polite, but he is not to take no for an answer no matter what. I am pretty confident in the case of medical necessities the airline representative or GSC would be the voice of reason.
#36
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP/4MM, QF PLT, Marriott PLT
Posts: 1,425
Originally Posted by eyecue
None of the listed items are recommended for a diabetic emergency. Glucose is allowed so is sugar, water and juice.
Quite frankly, for someone older, they probably shouldn't fly if they can't travel with the foods they're accustomed to. But then again, they shouldn't be deprived of them in the first place.
I have excellent control and I don't insist on bringing the foods I usually travel with (now banned), but it's to my own detriment. I have quite an enjoyable time
matching up the airside food and insulin loads and wind up a higher blood glucose than I would prefer.
#37
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,789
I feel so much safer now that former LEOs - now checkpoint screeners are deciding what potentially lifesaving foods/liquids may be carried on board with diabetes. I'll call my MD tomorrow to tell 'em they're fired.
Dr Eyecue - LOL!
Dr Eyecue - LOL!
#38
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Colorado
Programs: TSA
Posts: 2,745
Originally Posted by FWAAA
I feel so much safer now that former LEOs - now checkpoint screeners are deciding what potentially lifesaving foods/liquids may be carried on board with diabetes. I'll call my MD tomorrow to tell 'em they're fired.
Dr Eyecue - LOL!
Dr Eyecue - LOL!

#39




Join Date: May 2005
Location: SJC
Posts: 5,694
Originally Posted by eyecue
I cant believe, no wait yes I can! You are saying that TSO's are making the rules. We are not. If you are talking about life saving materials, then you are talking about what I mentioned. Not the tuna and other stuff.
So, in other words, yes the rules ARE endangering the health of some passengers AND going against the advice of a physician. If a TSO says "You don't need that" then they are advising the traveler on a medical matter. That's practicing medicine and illegal.
#40
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Greater DC
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Posts: 12,947
Originally Posted by eyecue
None of the listed items are recommended for a diabetic emergency. Glucose is allowed so is sugar, water and juice.
#41
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Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 4,953
Originally Posted by eyecue
I cant believe, no wait yes I can! You are saying that TSO's are making the rules. We are not. If you are talking about life saving materials, then you are talking about what I mentioned. Not the tuna and other stuff.
What a person with a medical condition requires to maintain optimum health is between him/herself and his/her physician. It is not the purview of the TSA to determine what the patient does or does not require. As stated by another poster, for the TSA to do so is, in effect, practicing medicine without a license.
#42
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Originally Posted by doober
What a person with a medical condition requires to maintain optimum health is between him/herself and his/her physician. It is not the purview of the TSA to determine what the patient does or does not require. As stated by another poster, for the TSA to do so is, in effect, practicing medicine without a license.
#43
Moderator: Coupon Connection & S.P.A.M




Join Date: May 2000
Location: Louisville, KY
Programs: Destination Unknown, TSA Disparager Diamond (LTDD)
Posts: 58,133
We seriously need some lawsuits against the TSA and perhaps against Comrade Hawley personally.
The guy belongs in prison.
The guy belongs in prison.
#44
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Colorado
Programs: TSA
Posts: 2,745
Originally Posted by JakiChan
I think the point is, Dr. Eyecue, that these folks are trying to stay out of a diabetic emergency in the first place, which is better for long term health. Glucose may save your life in a diabetic emergency, but by letting things get that bad you can help accelerate the other problems that can come with diabetes.
So, in other words, yes the rules ARE endangering the health of some passengers AND going against the advice of a physician. If a TSO says "You don't need that" then they are advising the traveler on a medical matter. That's practicing medicine and illegal.
So, in other words, yes the rules ARE endangering the health of some passengers AND going against the advice of a physician. If a TSO says "You don't need that" then they are advising the traveler on a medical matter. That's practicing medicine and illegal.
#45
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP/4MM, QF PLT, Marriott PLT
Posts: 1,425
Originally Posted by eyecue
Perhaps a bit more planning on the part of a diabetic would be in order to alleivate the possibility of a diabetic crisis on a plane.
So, my advice to most diabetics is to avoid air travel until they can be certain that their dietary needs will be met without surprise.

