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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by etch5895
One point on this, though. A far smaller percentage of Americans have served in the Armed Forces for this conflict than the Vietnam war. So, it won't be such a large number of people (hopefully). But, they will have a sphere of influence on others.

I'd like to say that we can see past that more now, with smarter troops, but this is certainly not always the case. Even now, the term 'Hadji' is almost exclusively used to describe any person of Arab or SW Asian descent, even though to a Muslim, Hadji would be considered a term of great respect. Similar to how 'gook' indicated foreigner in Vietnamese. Funny how we referred to the local nationals as 'foreigners'.
Hadji is one who has done Hadj, the pilgrimage to Mecca, a long arduous trip for most, was indeed an accomplishment in the old days. In one of the Indian languages there is a saying involving the word Hadji, which sort of means I scratch your back, I will scratch yours. You call me Qazi or Qadi ( judge or an officer who presdies presides over matters of law) and I will call you Hadji.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by Fishie
And not a single Muslim in sight.
Must be why the International media isnt giving much attention to it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5325198.stm
population growth rate of most european countries is very small. Immigration in mo way threatens their economic growth. If anything, their social welfare systems will need immigrants to support increasingly larger percentage ofolder population. Yet anti-immigrant feelings are on the rise.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
At least 20+ people have just been killed in India by terrorists, not too far from Bombay. 40+ more are wounded some seriously. It is believed that the deat toll will be at least 25. (The targets were muslims.) How much media attention would this grab in the US? Less attention than a good number of terrorism-related arrests in the US that had zero actual persons killed or wounded.

One of the great things about FT is the international perspective and stories being covered on FT that would otherwise not make most news-reading radars here in the US.
As of a minute ago, nothing on cnn.com about this. But...BBC and aljazeera.net are both covering it.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by etch5895
As of a minute ago, nothing on cnn.com about this. But...BBC and aljazeera.net are both covering it.
It has been the expereince, that the "liberal" media and non-liberal media aswell, do not cover news about lesser people unless either a U.S interest (buisness or people) or allies of the U.S. (pecking order Great Britain, Western Europe, except France, France, Eastern Europe, followed by Japan and Korea) are involved.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by Fishie
And not a single Muslim in sight.
Must be why the International media isnt giving much attention to it.
No attention? I even heard about it on the radio while driving to MUC recently.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by Yaatri
It has been the expereince, that the "liberal" media and non-liberal media aswell, do not cover news about lesser people unless either a U.S interest (buisness or people) or allies of the U.S. (pecking order Great Britain, Western Europe, except France, France, Eastern Europe, followed by Japan and Korea) are involved.
My favourite quote from a U.S. network news bulletin a few years ago went something like this:

"An overloaded Ferry capsized in Bangladesh today killing more than 350 people. No Americans were on board" [END OF STORY, elapsed time, probably 7 or 8 seconds, ...??]
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 12:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Yaatri
Hadji is one who has done Hadj, the pilgrimage to Mecca, a long arduous trip for most, was indeed an accomplishment in the old days. In one of the Indian languages there is a saying involving the word Hadji, which sort of means I scratch your back, I will scratch yours. You call me Qazi or Qadi ( judge or an officer who presdies presides over matters of law) and I will call you Hadji.
Totally OT but...

Ethnic slurs sometimes live a very strange life cycle. For instance, when I was a child, the ethnic slurs of the jour (in the seventies) were "....!" and "Nig Nog!". You could be riding your bike and a passing motorist would blow his horn and shout "F'ing ....!". Fumbling for change on the bus - driver gets impatient and could yell "Come on you Bloody ....!". Slightest altercation with anyone in authority "Oi, ....!, listen to me..." I recall it was an extremely insulting phrase at the time, but now young English lads of South Asian ancestry openly call themselves ....'s. I suppose this is similar to the development of the "N" word

I'm quite sure once the word Haji is popularized in America by returning soldiers, 20 or 30 years down the road, young Americans with Middle Eastern ancestry will be calling one another Haji. None of this makes it right to use etnic slurs in the first place. They are extremely hurtful words that represent bigotry.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder

We have the same kind of activity happening in the US too.
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Like those arms being "hand-carried" by some refugees turned US citizens for supposedly elephant hunting in Africa ( illegal and non-ethical btw) but ended up being used by their comrade terrorists in the ex-Yougoslavia
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Fishie
Must be why the International media isnt giving much attention to it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5325198.stm
Not the MSM in NAmerica but if you read news in Asia and Africa, they have mentioned it as well as this one . Since there is no Jihadists or word that ends with "Allah", the journalists are deaf.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by dodo
Like those arms being "hand-carried" by some refugees turned US citizens for supposedly elephant hunting in Africa ( illegal and non-ethical btw) but ended up being used by their comrade terrorists in the ex-Yougoslavia
Can you be a bit more specific instead of vague here?
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 10:52 pm
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You mean there are bad people who aren't Muslim??? I'm shocked, I tell you -- SHOCKED!!!
Yeah, I am really disappointed with terrorist plot are bad people were trying blow up the aircraft.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 1:17 am
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Originally Posted by dodo
Like those arms being "hand-carried" by some refugees turned US citizens for supposedly elephant hunting in Africa ( illegal and non-ethical btw) but ended up being used by their comrade terrorists in the ex-Yougoslavia
Would you mind expanding on that last bit about terrorists in the FRY?
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
No attention? I even heard about it on the radio while driving to MUC recently.
Unless cars drive on water, it seems like you heard about it in Europe -- where it got far more coverage than here in the US, where it got very little attention.

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by essxjay
Would you mind expanding on that last bit about terrorists in the FRY?
Reference toward the KLA in and around the FYR.

This may help: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in681562.shtml
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Unless cars drive on water, it seems like you heard about it in Europe -- where it got far more coverage than here in the US, where it got very little attention.
So European media isn't international? The OP talked about no attention in the INTERNATIONAL media...

And btw, yes, on Thursday night my car literally drove on water. Lots of it. Luckily, it also had night vision installed, so I could still see through all the rain.
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