CO 52: Traces of dynamite found on checked baggage
#16



Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: AUS
Programs: DL PM 2MM HH LTD
Posts: 1,857
Originally Posted by Spiff
Comrade Kip Hawley:
"We did not get any false positives for explosives in IAH, so we rescreened all the bags in EWR. Sooner or later, the layers of the system work."
thanks,
Marc
#17
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Golden State
Programs: 2Peon, NW PLAT, HH Diamond & *W Fallen-from-Gold-Grace
Posts: 1,422
I heard a little bit ago, again from MSNBC, the person held for questioning claimed he purchased some "artifacts" to bring home.
#18
Moderator: Coupon Connection & S.P.A.M




Join Date: May 2000
Location: Louisville, KY
Programs: Destination Unknown, TSA Disparager Diamond (LTDD)
Posts: 58,133
Originally Posted by Marq
Is this quote "made up" or is it a real quote? If real, do you have a link?
thanks,
Marc
thanks,
Marc
It's vintage Hawley, though.
#22
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 10,034
Let me get this straight.
Flight comes in from Argentina, passengers deplane, guy has residue on his bag or himself, bag and person detained in Houston, flight takes off for Newark, lands at Newark, and THEN they decided to do the "precautionary" stuff?
Seriously, is that the way it is?
Flight comes in from Argentina, passengers deplane, guy has residue on his bag or himself, bag and person detained in Houston, flight takes off for Newark, lands at Newark, and THEN they decided to do the "precautionary" stuff?
Seriously, is that the way it is?
#23
Moderator: Coupon Connection & S.P.A.M




Join Date: May 2000
Location: Louisville, KY
Programs: Destination Unknown, TSA Disparager Diamond (LTDD)
Posts: 58,133
Originally Posted by Marq
FT loses a lot of credibility if we use "quote" marks around text that is not a quote. Or, is it just such a bad situation that any sarcastic remark could have been actually said?
Marc
Marc
I will keep this in mind for future parody and lampooning of Comrades Hawley and Chertoff.
Made up quotes will likely be attributed to Comrades Pawley and Cherkoff.
#24
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: The Sunshine State
Programs: Deltaworst Peon Level, TSA "Layer 21 Club", NW WP RIP
Posts: 11,372
Intend to Do with Residue
No bomb, but another wasted excuse for a terminal dump.
"Federal authorities are investigating why the student, had the explosive residue and what he intended to do with it."
I see both TSA and the CNN reporters have totally lost their minds. ... do you intend to do with residue? Sell it on Ebay?
"Intend to Do with Residue" sounds like a good country song title or advertising jingle. ^
"Federal authorities are investigating why the student, had the explosive residue and what he intended to do with it."
I see both TSA and the CNN reporters have totally lost their minds. ... do you intend to do with residue? Sell it on Ebay?
"Intend to Do with Residue" sounds like a good country song title or advertising jingle. ^
#25




Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: UA Based on my CC Spend (PLT 25-GLD 26), AA LT 2MM, LY Gold, Bonvoy LT Plt, Mets fan
Posts: 5,077
Originally Posted by PhlyingRPh
Sounds like Wile-e-Coyote trying to get the Roadrunner to me. 

#26




Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Alexandria, VA, USA NW Platinum Elite Since 1999, United GoldMM, Hyatt Discoverist, SPG Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hertz #1 Gold, IC Ambassador
Posts: 7,451
MODS can you retitle to indicate "residue"... there was no actual dynamite
This is why I've told some of my colleagues who do work for the govm't at ammo storage facilities to have something with them that identifies where they've been... all it takes is a laptop bag with trace setting off an ETD and you aren't going anywhere for a while...
This is why I've told some of my colleagues who do work for the govm't at ammo storage facilities to have something with them that identifies where they've been... all it takes is a laptop bag with trace setting off an ETD and you aren't going anywhere for a while...
#27




Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: STL, MO-US and A , SWA A-List, Marriott LTTE, Hilton Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,891
Originally Posted by Spiff
What can someone do with 'residue'? 
I know what Comrades Hawley and Chertoff can do with all these diversions and where they can both go.
Comrade Lip Pawley, Spokeshole for the Terrorism Support Agency:
"We did not get any false positives for explosives in IAH, so we rescreened all the bags in EWR. Sooner or later, the layers of the system work."

I know what Comrades Hawley and Chertoff can do with all these diversions and where they can both go.
Comrade Lip Pawley, Spokeshole for the Terrorism Support Agency:
"We did not get any false positives for explosives in IAH, so we rescreened all the bags in EWR. Sooner or later, the layers of the system work."
#28




Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: DCA / WAS
Programs: DL 2+ million/PM, YX, Marriott Plt, *wood gold, HHonors, CO Plt, UA, AA EXP, WN, AGR
Posts: 9,386
Originally Posted by rar indeed
I wonder how many diversions the airlines will stand before someone screams enough.
#29
FlyerTalk Evangelist



Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 38,543
Originally Posted by LessO2
Let me get this straight.
Flight comes in from Argentina, passengers deplane, guy has residue on his bag or himself, bag and person detained in Houston, flight takes off for Newark, lands at Newark, and THEN they decided to do the "precautionary" stuff?
Seriously, is that the way it is?
Flight comes in from Argentina, passengers deplane, guy has residue on his bag or himself, bag and person detained in Houston, flight takes off for Newark, lands at Newark, and THEN they decided to do the "precautionary" stuff?
Seriously, is that the way it is?
They're making sure nothing stayed behind on the plane.
#30




Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: New York / Hawaii
Programs: UA Global Services, HH Diamond
Posts: 5,206
Actual Bomb Found on Flight 52
CNN now reports that an actual bomb was indeed found on board the airplane:
In related news, isn't it absolutely amazing how many flights are being diverted or being brought down in an emergency landing due to security or terrorism issues? Today, 7 flights came down in the US --one of which was a CO flight from Corpus Christi to El Paso to Bakersfield in which the crew became concerned over a missing panel in the lavatory. I believe there was an equal number of emergency landings and diversions in US airspace yesterday.
With these "false alarms", it's interesting to see that dynamite actually makes its way onto a CO flight.
In Buenos Aires, Marcelo Sain, head of Argentina's Airport Security Police, told local television that authorities found "a Coca-Cola bottle with mud, and inside it was a tube with ammonium nitrate, a little bit of dynamite and a detonator," according to Reuters.
In Houston, KTRK-13 quoted law enforcement sources as saying that the man had a blasting cap, a homemade fuse and a quarter-pound of ammonium nitrate, in addition to the dynamite.
Mark Mancuso, spokesman for the Houston Airport System, said he could not confirm the allegations but that "some additional items of contraband may have been found."
So to me, actual dynamite + ammonium nitrate + blasting cap = bomb ...and shame shame shame on the officials that allowed this bomb to travel into the CO system and shame shame shame on officials for not detaining the questionable passenger sooner.In Houston, KTRK-13 quoted law enforcement sources as saying that the man had a blasting cap, a homemade fuse and a quarter-pound of ammonium nitrate, in addition to the dynamite.
Mark Mancuso, spokesman for the Houston Airport System, said he could not confirm the allegations but that "some additional items of contraband may have been found."
In related news, isn't it absolutely amazing how many flights are being diverted or being brought down in an emergency landing due to security or terrorism issues? Today, 7 flights came down in the US --one of which was a CO flight from Corpus Christi to El Paso to Bakersfield in which the crew became concerned over a missing panel in the lavatory. I believe there was an equal number of emergency landings and diversions in US airspace yesterday.
With these "false alarms", it's interesting to see that dynamite actually makes its way onto a CO flight.

