Author critical of administration gets put on the no-fly list
Jan 6, 2006, 12:22 am
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I agree that we're headed in the wrong direction, and I'm not a Bush fan, but this has been happening for a while. Naturalist Farley Mowat, one of Canada's great writers ("Never Cry Wolf"), was refused entry in the 1980s ... allegedly because he disagreed with cruise missiles (I've yet to meet a Canadian who enjoyed that period where American cruise missiles flew over Canadian territory). Hey, even Jack London had some questionable politics, but he still wrote a good yarn...
This is the ACLU's pithy take on it - http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/details/mowat.html - if you read through some of the other examples, some are rather surprising, such as Pierre Trudeau's exclusion in the 1950s. (Trudeau later became... wait for it... Prime Minister of Canada... a bilingual powerhouse who was hardly "subversive".)
This is the ACLU's pithy take on it - http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/details/mowat.html - if you read through some of the other examples, some are rather surprising, such as Pierre Trudeau's exclusion in the 1950s. (Trudeau later became... wait for it... Prime Minister of Canada... a bilingual powerhouse who was hardly "subversive".)
Jan 6, 2006, 5:35 am
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You'll get on it for being affilated with the shoe carnival website. 
Jan 6, 2006, 7:39 am
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Originally Posted by Spiff
I'm proud to be affiliated with a website that shows what a farce airport "security" harassment really is. If gutless, yellow punks want to try to blacklist me for that, there's not a lot I can do except continue to campaign for their swift deportation or at least arrest.
I sent the glossary out Wednesday night, if you're still on the dev list. Let me know what you think of it.
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Jan 6, 2006, 5:28 pm
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Originally Posted by yukon28209
I agree that we're headed in the wrong direction, and I'm not a Bush fan, but this has been happening for a while. Naturalist Farley Mowat, one of Canada's great writers ("Never Cry Wolf"), was refused entry in the 1980s ... allegedly because he disagreed with cruise missiles (I've yet to meet a Canadian who enjoyed that period where American cruise missiles flew over Canadian territory). Hey, even Jack London had some questionable politics, but he still wrote a good yarn...
This is the ACLU's pithy take on it - http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/details/mowat.html - if you read through some of the other examples, some are rather surprising, such as Pierre Trudeau's exclusion in the 1950s. (Trudeau later became... wait for it... Prime Minister of Canada... a bilingual powerhouse who was hardly "subversive".)
This is the ACLU's pithy take on it - http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/details/mowat.html - if you read through some of the other examples, some are rather surprising, such as Pierre Trudeau's exclusion in the 1950s. (Trudeau later became... wait for it... Prime Minister of Canada... a bilingual powerhouse who was hardly "subversive".)
and not LAX.As for Pierre Elliot, IIRC, he was turned back at the I-91 auto border crossing and just went to another smaller crossing where he was waved through.
Jan 6, 2006, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Doppy
This guy wrote a book (Bush's Brain) critical of the administration, and was subsequently put on the no fly list last year. Coincidence?
(Incidentally, I have a vague memory that there are actually two lists, and it's probably not the "no-fly" list that he was on -- I can't remember what the other was called.)
Jan 7, 2006, 2:24 am
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Originally Posted by Spiff
I'm proud to be affiliated with a website that shows what a farce airport "security" harassment really is. If gutless, yellow punks want to try to blacklist me for that, there's not a lot I can do except continue to campaign for their swift deportation or at least arrest.
Jan 7, 2006, 2:44 am
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Originally Posted by daw617
Probably, yeah. Probably some criminal used this guy's name as an alias, and the name got put on the list. The list has so many darn names on it that I wouldn't be surprised if it were coincidence.
(Incidentally, I have a vague memory that there are actually two lists, and it's probably not the "no-fly" list that he was on -- I can't remember what the other was called.)
(Incidentally, I have a vague memory that there are actually two lists, and it's probably not the "no-fly" list that he was on -- I can't remember what the other was called.)
Jan 7, 2006, 2:49 am
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Originally Posted by n5667
I'm sure you have the undivided attention of the DHS...
Isn't that an oxymoron?
Jan 7, 2006, 3:00 am
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[QUOTE=Flaflyer][QUOTE=goaliemn]Common names show up on there quite a bit. Someone, somewhere, used that name as an alias and got caught, so now they're on the list.
I do so hope that somewhere a bad guy uses the alias "George Bush". When W is out of office he will hopefully someday have to fly commercial and get his very own Secondary. ^
I don't know of a single living ex-POTUS who has not routinely flown on scheduled commercial planes within the US after leaving the White House. GF, GHWB, WJC are certainly no exception .... as I've been on commercial flights with the latter two a few times.
If USAir goes, I don't wonder where they will go -- just another commercial airline.
I do so hope that somewhere a bad guy uses the alias "George Bush". When W is out of office he will hopefully someday have to fly commercial and get his very own Secondary. ^
If USAir goes, I don't wonder where they will go -- just another commercial airline.
Jan 7, 2006, 3:17 am
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Originally Posted by n5667
I'm sure you have the undivided attention of the DHS...