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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 7:52 am
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TSA - Selected Twice for Screening

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Can anyone tell me what place in line one has to be for extra screening? The past two times I checked in I was in-line with no one in front of me and was selected to have my bags searched and complete the extra screening process. Twice in a row? First in TLH and now again at BWI... am I doing something wrong? This only happened once before and it was about 8 months ago.
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by donb25
Hi:

Can anyone tell me what place in line one has to be for extra screening? The past two times I checked in I was in-line with no one in front of me and was selected to have my bags searched and complete the extra screening process. Twice in a row? First in TLH and now again at BWI... am I doing something wrong? This only happened once before and it was about 8 months ago.
Generally speaking, in DAB you have to be elderly (it helps if you're being assisted to the gate in a wheelchair), or under the age of four

Although I've never seen evidence of it, I've heard rumours that failing to remove all of your body piercings before screening could also subject you to additional screening
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 8:16 am
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 8:36 am
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I can discuss the one day that I was selected to be screened five separate times, all before boarding Delta Air Lines flights in various cities on the same itinerary, but I would rather keep that day as a distant memory. During my last screening in Kansas City, a Transportation Security Administration (TSA) screener actually asked if she could have some of the candy I carried with me after she already unwrapped some of it and started eating it!

What a bad day that was!

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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by donb25
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Can anyone tell me what place in line one has to be for extra screening? The past two times I checked in I was in-line with no one in front of me and was selected to have my bags searched and complete the extra screening process. Twice in a row? First in TLH and now again at BWI... am I doing something wrong? This only happened once before and it was about 8 months ago.
You weren't SSSS'd right? The other reason would be that you were the next continuous person in line. If screeners aren't busy with alarms and SSSS, they are supposed to be busy at all times. So if they weren't doing anything and you came along, that's the reason.
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by bambi47
The other reason would be that you were the next continuous person in line. If screeners aren't busy with alarms and SSSS, they are supposed to be busy at all times. So if they weren't doing anything and you came along, that's the reason.
Sounds like a "good" reason to can a lot of screeners.
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 2:42 pm
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The old gate rapes were easy to beat, and various techniques were legendary here on FT a while back. These days, a technique I use is to pick a line I suspect will have a lot of secondaries going on. I know it goes against the grain of every FT's mindset, but it works. Just pick the line with the young family, the wheelchair-bound person, or someone overflowing with jewelry or someone who you just know will set off the metal detector.

Now, if you're a victim, make sure you insist on keeping all of your stuff in your sight at all times, require anyone who touches the inside of your bags or you -- with dignity & respect of course -- to change gloves, and demand compliance with the Privacy Act if they assume they can copy down your personal information without your permission.

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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by bambi47
If screeners aren't busy with alarms and SSSS, they are supposed to be busy at all times.
This must be the reason they are checking BPs three times at the same security checkpoint now...something to look busy with!

At MIA the TSA screener actually stopped me heading to Term A from Term C to check BP....what nonsense!
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by ExpoTrac
This must be the reason they are checking BPs three times at the same security checkpoint now...something to look busy with!

At MIA the TSA screener actually stopped me heading to Term A from Term C to check BP....what nonsense!
I don't know what their doing down there. There is no reason to stop you while your walking between terminals. Checking the BP a couple of times I would bet would be to make sure a SSSS doesn't somehow get through without secondary. It reduces gate calls and keeps everybody on their toes. If somebody is missing them, they'll be able to find out who it is. But, that's my opinion.
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by bambi47
I don't know what their doing down there. There is no reason to stop you while your walking between terminals.
Took me by surprise - I at first thought he was talking to the folks exiting the screening area for A, but after he shouted at me as I passed by I just stopped at looked at him in amazement. My wife with with me so I didn't ask for a supervisor, but he had a bad attitude as well!
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by ExpoTrac
Took me by surprise - I at first thought he was talking to the folks exiting the screening area for A, but after he shouted at me as I passed by I just stopped at looked at him in amazement. My wife with with me so I didn't ask for a supervisor, but he had a bad attitude as well!
Sounds like a whacky screener to me. Was a supervisor even near him? I would question why he was doing that next time you go through, after your through security. Or even ask at another terminal if they know why. If you ever get an answer please let us know, I'd be curious as to what it was. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 10:35 pm
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Sounds like a "good" reason to can a lot of screeners.
What is a good reason to can screeners? The fact they they pulled someone for secondary? Or the fact that they weren't busy at that particular time?
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by bambi47
What is a good reason to can screeners? The fact they they pulled someone for secondary? Or the fact that they weren't busy at that particular time?
Yeah, fire the screeners for not having a backed-up line at quiet times. Then we can all b**** about why there aren't enough screeners at busy times
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by bambi47
What is a good reason to can screeners? The fact they they pulled someone for secondary? Or the fact that they weren't busy at that particular time?
Re. Question 2. Not that.
Re. Question 3. Not that.

Re. Question 1. If an organization's employees feel a need to "look busy" or "create busywork" -- and then go about doing so with such nonsense as "continuous (secondary) screening" and more -- the organization (and its overseers) ought to consider streamlining or alternative strategies -- including eliminating full-time screener positions.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
Yeah, fire the screeners for not having a backed-up line at quiet times. Then we can all b**** about why there aren't enough screeners at busy times
With information technology that the private sector routinely uses, TSA should be able to check schedules and passenger loads to efficiently staff checkpoints. This is not rocket science.
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