Logic and the SSSS
#16
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Colorado
Programs: TSA
Posts: 2,745
ummm
Originally Posted by bstrickmma
You are missing the point...there is an inherent lack of common sense here as it's obvious to both your agency and the airline whether or not the passenger is a minor.
Regardless, since you apparently do not appreciate the basic common-sense arguement regarding this issue, the carrier or TSA have the authority to deselect minors for haraSSSSment. Time for you to review your SOP.
#19
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Join Date: Sep 2000
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All I can assume is that if there is a "large" group with the same last name and a flight pattern it considers to be out of the ordinary then the computer will just pick a few people, perhaps it picked the first three first names in the alphabet, perhaps just in order it's in the system, and perhaps totally random...
#21
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Colorado
Programs: TSA
Posts: 2,745
well
Originally Posted by bstrickmma
TSA regulations allow airlines to deselect pax for haraSSSSment based on certain criteria...period. It should have been obvious when the gentlemen's family checked in that his children met that certain criteria.
I can tell we've touched a nerve here as you are being so defensive. Thus the appearence that you do not appreciate neither the common-sense theme or what the rules are. I suggest you review the policy before knee-jerking so much.
P.S.-If the LEO was a federal officer flying on official orders, he would have been exempt from SSSS. I don't believe there is an exemption regarding state officials (except maybe for the transport of prisoners), I'll need to look into this one.
I can tell we've touched a nerve here as you are being so defensive. Thus the appearence that you do not appreciate neither the common-sense theme or what the rules are. I suggest you review the policy before knee-jerking so much.
P.S.-If the LEO was a federal officer flying on official orders, he would have been exempt from SSSS. I don't believe there is an exemption regarding state officials (except maybe for the transport of prisoners), I'll need to look into this one.
#22
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MCO
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Originally Posted by eyecue
I have even been SSSS while getting a boarding pass in UNIFORM.
#23
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 456
TSA can no longer deselect anyone. It used to be we could deselect young children, military in uniform traveling with orders, and flight crew in uniform traveling jump seat. Then, we couldn't deselect the flight crew or the military, but we could suggest (before they presented anything for screening) that they go back to the airline and ask to be deselected. We are no longer allowed to do that either. If someone comes in as a selectee, they remain a selectee; there's nothing we can do about it.
#25
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Arlington VA
Posts: 5,735
Originally Posted by eyecue
I have even been SSSS while getting a boarding pass in UNIFORM.
But this is a classic example of the silliness of the SSSS program anyway.
Were you allowed to screen (or as some would say, grope) yourself at the checkpoing for the SSSS?