Well, the system worked...
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Vermont
Posts: 432
Well, the system worked...
I was travelling through SLC (the local airport I frequently use) the other day. After I cleared the contracted security guard who checks ID (who thankfully was literate this week, see previous post) I was assigned a WTMD lane as usual.
As I got close to the WTMD our lane was suddenly shifted over to the next lane. Several TSA agents came out of nowhere and blocked off the area on the other side of the checkpoint by my old lane. The police were requested and responded quickly. All of the folks who just cleared the WTMD were matched to their bags and one couple was detained. Their bag was resent through the WTMD so the police could observe it.
Now, at this time I was close enough where I could see the screen on the x-ray clearly as the suspect bag passed through. It clearly contained five or six large knives, plain as day. The police removed the objects from the bag as the couple watched and they were all escorted over to the desk the local TSA manager and police have at the checkpoint. I do not know what happened next, because I left to catch my flight.
Anyway, this was all handled very quickly (less than 5 minutes), quietly, and efficiently. The folks in the other lanes who did not get shifted probably did not even realize what happened. The quick response of SLC TSA and police probably saved a terminal dump from occuring since they ensured that nobody from that lane left the checkpoint until the whole situation was resolved.
Of course, I am not so naieve as to suggest that the TSA foiled a major terrorist operation, rather I am simply commenting that at this time the system worked well.
One has to wonder about the stupidity of the people who bring such objects onto an airplane in their carryon in this day and age.
As I got close to the WTMD our lane was suddenly shifted over to the next lane. Several TSA agents came out of nowhere and blocked off the area on the other side of the checkpoint by my old lane. The police were requested and responded quickly. All of the folks who just cleared the WTMD were matched to their bags and one couple was detained. Their bag was resent through the WTMD so the police could observe it.
Now, at this time I was close enough where I could see the screen on the x-ray clearly as the suspect bag passed through. It clearly contained five or six large knives, plain as day. The police removed the objects from the bag as the couple watched and they were all escorted over to the desk the local TSA manager and police have at the checkpoint. I do not know what happened next, because I left to catch my flight.
Anyway, this was all handled very quickly (less than 5 minutes), quietly, and efficiently. The folks in the other lanes who did not get shifted probably did not even realize what happened. The quick response of SLC TSA and police probably saved a terminal dump from occuring since they ensured that nobody from that lane left the checkpoint until the whole situation was resolved.
Of course, I am not so naieve as to suggest that the TSA foiled a major terrorist operation, rather I am simply commenting that at this time the system worked well.
One has to wonder about the stupidity of the people who bring such objects onto an airplane in their carryon in this day and age.
#2
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 1,673
Originally Posted by AgtMulder
One has to wonder about the stupidity of the people who bring such objects onto an airplane in their carryon in this day and age. 

#3
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: ATL
Programs: Delta DM, Marriott Plat, SPG Gold
Posts: 374
Originally Posted by TSAMGR
People do it all the time. Usually they say they didn't know you couldn't bring those items.
#5
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 1,673
True story, I'm talking to a supervisor at the front of the queue next to a nice big sign we put up that states Torch Lighters can't be brought on the plane (FAA issue, already discussed on another thread) when someone comes up to us, looks at the sign then pulls out a torch lighter (same as pictured on the sign) and asks "Can I bring this with me". The following answers go through my head:
1. "Why yes, ignore the sign it is for other people, not YOU".
2. "No and we just put this sign up a minute ago so just you can't bring the lighter on board".
3. "You must be a FF".
4. "You must be a FF who posts on FlyerTalk"
Of course I said "sorry ma'am, you can't".
So she says thank you, puts the lighter back in her bag and proceeds to the ticket checker and through the queue. The supervisor and I just look at each other shaking our heads. The screener finds the lighter, advises her of her options and then she says...
"I didn't know you couldn't bring them"
I had to hold the supervisor back from yelling "we just told you"
1. "Why yes, ignore the sign it is for other people, not YOU".
2. "No and we just put this sign up a minute ago so just you can't bring the lighter on board".
3. "You must be a FF".
4. "You must be a FF who posts on FlyerTalk"

Of course I said "sorry ma'am, you can't".
So she says thank you, puts the lighter back in her bag and proceeds to the ticket checker and through the queue. The supervisor and I just look at each other shaking our heads. The screener finds the lighter, advises her of her options and then she says...
"I didn't know you couldn't bring them"
I had to hold the supervisor back from yelling "we just told you"
#6
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Southeast
Posts: 102
Originally Posted by TSAMGR
People do it all the time. Usually they say they didn't know you couldn't bring those items.
I've had one individual bring a survival knife with him. It was found on x-ray. When pulled from the bag, he stated that he was sure that it wouldn't be found so he brought it. I thanked him for allowing us the opportunity to search his bag and directed him over to the officer that was standing by him.
#7

Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: BOS and vicinity
Programs: Former UA 1P
Posts: 3,730
Originally Posted by AgtMulder
As I got close to the WTMD our lane was suddenly shifted over to the next lane. Several TSA agents came out of nowhere and blocked off the area on the other side of the checkpoint by my old lane. The police were requested and responded quickly. All of the folks who just cleared the WTMD were matched to their bags and one couple was detained. Their bag was resent through the WTMD so the police could observe it.
Now, at this time I was close enough where I could see the screen on the x-ray clearly as the suspect bag passed through. It clearly contained five or six large knives, plain as day. The police removed the objects from the bag as the couple watched and they were all escorted over to the desk the local TSA manager and police have at the checkpoint. I do not know what happened next, because I left to catch my flight.
Anyway, this was all handled very quickly (less than 5 minutes), quietly, and efficiently. The folks in the other lanes who did not get shifted probably did not even realize what happened. The quick response of SLC TSA and police probably saved a terminal dump from occuring since they ensured that nobody from that lane left the checkpoint until the whole situation was resolved.
Now, at this time I was close enough where I could see the screen on the x-ray clearly as the suspect bag passed through. It clearly contained five or six large knives, plain as day. The police removed the objects from the bag as the couple watched and they were all escorted over to the desk the local TSA manager and police have at the checkpoint. I do not know what happened next, because I left to catch my flight.
Anyway, this was all handled very quickly (less than 5 minutes), quietly, and efficiently. The folks in the other lanes who did not get shifted probably did not even realize what happened. The quick response of SLC TSA and police probably saved a terminal dump from occuring since they ensured that nobody from that lane left the checkpoint until the whole situation was resolved.
1) They caught a threatening object: large knives constitute a credible threat to aircraft passengers.
2) They didn't shut down the entire checkpoint and/or shut it down for long periods of time.
3) They caught it when it was still on the conveyer belt, not 5 minutes later causing a terminal dump.
Hopefully the police and TSA did a good job figuring out what was going on and metered out some appropriate punishment. (Even an anti-fine person like myself wouldn't see a problem with a nice little fine for someone dumb enough to bring a large set of chef's or larger knives through a checkpoint.)
Nice to hear a story of the system working. ^
Any sort of reward for the astute x-ray operator? I chatted with an 80+ year-old former private screener a few years back in an airport, and he said the x-ray operators used to get some sort of (minor) reward for catching prohibited objects on the screen. Helped to break the monotony.
#8
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Southeast
Posts: 102
Originally Posted by studentff
Any sort of reward for the astute x-ray operator? I chatted with an 80+ year-old former private screener a few years back in an airport, and he said the x-ray operators used to get some sort of (minor) reward for catching prohibited objects on the screen. Helped to break the monotony.
#9
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Florida - Delta Charter DM/3.3MM; Lifetime SPG Plat; HH Gold;
Posts: 1,789
Originally Posted by kmitchell74
At my airport, the x-ray operator and bag search screener that is involved in an item that results in regulatory fines will be rewarded with a pin and if the item is severe enough, a day or two off with pay.
#10
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: An NPR mind living in a Fox News world
Posts: 14,343
I'm sorry folks -- this is just another example of the TSA doing what my home burglar alarm system is designed to do -- catch the amateurs. The difference is that my home burglar alarm system has a secondary purpose: I get 25% off my homeowners' insurance because the smoke alarms are also monitored.
This is certainly another victory in the war on terror. Gee -- the screener and bag checker could be special guests at the Republican convention a couple of weeks. Ashcroft could personally give them their two-day passes -- on national TV.
This is certainly another victory in the war on terror. Gee -- the screener and bag checker could be special guests at the Republican convention a couple of weeks. Ashcroft could personally give them their two-day passes -- on national TV.
#11
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 1,673
Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
This is certainly another victory in the war on terror. Gee -- the screener and bag checker could be special guests at the Republican convention a couple of weeks. Ashcroft could personally give them their two-day passes -- on national TV.
Hey, great idea ^
#15
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: GSP (Greenville, SC)
Programs: DL Gold Medallion; UA Premier Executive; WN sub-CP; AA sub-Gold
Posts: 13,393
Originally Posted by TSAMGR
Guess you never heard the term "Good Job" at work. 
Now thats sad

Now thats sad

If I ****ed up every other day, and couldn't be fired by government fiat, then a "good job" when I actually do it would be in order. That would be sad.



