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Hope for the future
My six year-old niece was flying home the other day. Cute girl, strong-willed. TSA confiscated her round-tipped scissors, ones she got in Disney World. Made her incredibly angry and defiant. I doubt she'll ever forget the experience.
Keep it up, TSA. You solidify your reputation as scum a little bit more everyday. ^ ^ ^
Keep it up, TSA. You solidify your reputation as scum a little bit more everyday. ^ ^ ^
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
My six year-old niece was flying home the other day. Cute girl, strong-willed. TSA confiscated her round-tipped scissors, ones she got in Disney World. Made her incredibly angry and defiant. I doubt she'll ever forget the experience.
Keep it up, TSA. You solidify your reputation as scum a little bit more everyday. ^ ^ ^
Keep it up, TSA. You solidify your reputation as scum a little bit more everyday. ^ ^ ^
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Originally Posted by TakeScissorsAway
We aim to please 

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Originally Posted by AirMan
If you work for TSA, then what you wrote is apalling and uncalled for. I had a rounded pair taken from me and it pissed me off, but I didn't make a big deal about it. I did, however, still ask the supv why were they taken. Once I explained how they were made, he said that he probably would not have taken them. I guess it was a borderline call and I just had the misfortune of picking the wrong lane. 

Let's hope they keep it up over the summer.
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It is very dissappointing to have someone like TakeScissorsAway say something like, "We aim to please." I sure hope he is not part of the TSA community. Many in the TSA try very hard to make a decent reputation, but along comes those that in one comment destroy all of our work. It is true that only the bad things and experiences are the ones best remembered. It only takes one person to say the wrong thing to set back an entire organization. I'm just as appauled as anyone else here is. Please remember that his statements only represent himself and not the TSA as a whole.
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Originally Posted by kmitchell74
It is very dissappointing to have someone like TakeScissorsAway say something like, "We aim to please." I sure hope he is not part of the TSA community. Many in the TSA try very hard to make a decent reputation, but along comes those that in one comment destroy all of our work. It is true that only the bad things and experiences are the ones best remembered. It only takes one person to say the wrong thing to set back an entire organization. I'm just as appauled as anyone else here is. Please remember that his statements only represent himself and not the TSA as a whole.
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying any more of this "most of us are decent people" argument. People who join the TSA agree with their policies. If they don't, they should leave. The policy in question: taking away rounded-tipped scissors from a six-year-old girl is idiotic, over-bearing, and worthy of contempt. Anyone who is on the payroll of an organization that does this is complicit and worthy of contempt.
Luckily, the TSA generates its contempt against itself constantly, and it is getting good at it. Call it karma or something. I hope the cycle continues through the summer. The TSA deserves all of the contempt it can generate.
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
People who join the TSA agree with their policies. If they don't, they should leave.
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying any more of this "most of us are decent people" argument.
When I say this, I'm not yelling, so don't view this as an attack.
How do you expect someone to take your argument seriously when you generalize like this? Your comment is just as rude as the comment made by "TakeScissorsAway." The only difference is that I think Take Scissors.... was just joking.
It seems to me as if somebody made a mistake by taking the round scissors. It also seems to me that people like to exaggerate around here, so it's quite possible that the event never happened.
I have encountered some great screeners and some rude screeners. I have encountered some great passengers as well as some rude ones. Why generalize? Make your comment about a specific person and not an entire group and you will all get along much better.
Peace, Love, blah, blah, blah...
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Originally Posted by Delta Dawn
Hi. I'm new here, but I have been following your forums for a while now. So take it easy on me!
How do you expect someone to take your argument seriously when you generalize like this? Your comment is just as rude as the comment made by "TakeScissorsAway." The only difference is that I think Take Scissors.... was just joking.
It seems to me as if somebody made a mistake by taking the round scissors.
It also seems to me that people like to exaggerate around here, so it's quite possible that the event never happened.
I have encountered some great screeners and some rude screeners. I have encountered some great passengers as well as some rude ones. Why generalize? Make your comment about a specific person and not an entire group and you will all get along much better.
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Originally Posted by AirMan
That is ludicrous! There is only one type of individual who agrees with EVERY policy at their place of employment, a brown-noser! If you are trying to say that you agree with every policy at your job, then you are a pathetic liar. 

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Ever heard of Code Of ethics?
Originally Posted by AirMan
That is ludicrous! There is only one type of individual who agrees with EVERY policy at their place of employment, a brown-noser! If you are trying to say that you agree with every policy at your job, then you are a pathetic liar. 

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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
No, there is no mistake. They are supposed to be allowed.
If you say this happened, I guess I'm supposed to believe you, but the stand you're taking against "all" TSA employees leads me to believe that you're out to make them look bad at all costs. It weakens your credibility in my book.
While I realize there are holes and things that need improvement, I feel safer when I'm screened. I'm willing to cooperate as long as I'm treated with respect. If I'm not treated with respect, I go to the supervisor and point the individual out.
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Originally Posted by Delta Dawn
I was saying that it was a mistake that they were confiscated. I travel with rounded scissors all the time and I never have any trouble.
If you say this happened, I guess I'm supposed to believe you, but the stand you're taking against "all" TSA employees leads me to believe that you're out to make them look bad at all costs. It weakens your credibility in my book.
While I realize there are holes and things that need improvement, I feel safer when I'm screened. I'm willing to cooperate as long as I'm treated with respect. If I'm not treated with respect, I go to the supervisor and point the individual out.
So, you feel safe, but you aren't. Is it worth it?
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Delta Dawn,
In all sincerity, I really have to ask you to explain your statement:
I've heard this statement before, and I really don't understand it. Believe me, I'm not passing judgment. I'm as serious as a heart attack. How does a search possibly leading to confiscation of your personal belongings and your personal detention, arrest, and fine when you know darn well you're not a threat make you feel safe?
If I were to extrapolate this out, would you feel more "safe" if you were strip-searched? Would you feel even more safe if the police searched your house before you left on your trip?
I trust you'll take this line of questioning in the manner asked. There's no hidden agenda. -- Thanks.
In all sincerity, I really have to ask you to explain your statement:
I feel safer when I'm screened.
If I were to extrapolate this out, would you feel more "safe" if you were strip-searched? Would you feel even more safe if the police searched your house before you left on your trip?
I trust you'll take this line of questioning in the manner asked. There's no hidden agenda. -- Thanks.
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
It isn't the comments your screeners make which debase your reputation, it is your actions.
Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying any more of this "most of us are decent people" argument. People who join the TSA agree with their policies. If they don't, they should leave. The policy in question: taking away rounded-tipped scissors from a six-year-old girl is idiotic, over-bearing, and worthy of contempt. Anyone who is on the payroll of an organization that does this is complicit and worthy of contempt.
There is no policy about taking rounded-tipped scissors. They are not listed on the prohibited items list. They are allowed and not supposed to be taken. I cannot justify the supervisor's actions.
Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
Luckily, the TSA generates its contempt against itself constantly, and it is getting good at it. Call it karma or something. I hope the cycle continues through the summer. The TSA deserves all of the contempt it can generate.

