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tanja Mar 17, 2015 1:58 pm

Temporary Swedish passport
 
I am an a legal resident in USA. Tried to renew my swedish passport. Everytime I try the swedish goverment change the rules. So the fastest and cheapest is in Sweden.
The reason is cause of terroist/fraud and you name it.
The waiting list , if you even get on it, is long. And then even longer to get a permanent passpost. So I have to get a temporary one.

Question is has any traveled with a temporay passport? I have read/hears that it is not very popular at all.

GUWonder Mar 18, 2015 2:52 am


Originally Posted by tanja (Post 24521974)
I am an a legal resident in USA. Tried to renew my swedish passport. Everytime I try the swedish goverment change the rules. So the fastest and cheapest is in Sweden.
The reason is cause of terroist/fraud and you name it.
The waiting list , if you even get on it, is long. And then even longer to get a permanent passpost. So I have to get a temporary one.

Question is has any traveled with a temporay passport? I have read/hears that it is not very popular at all.

In part because of the US Government -- and specifically the US Visa Waiver Program as stick and carrot -- the Swedish and other VWP countries' governments did things the US wanted, including changing passport issuance policies and practices. Previously, Swedish consulates across the US were able to issue standard passports locally, but now they are basically crippled from doing that and are fast becoming even more pointless outposts in terms of providing Swedish citizen services. The emergency passport replacement travel doc is indeed sometimes not very popular at all, and the airline reps, TSA employees and/or CBP have sometimes made stinks over these docs, sometimes more so if everyone else in the same travel party has a regular passport issued by the same country as the person using say a government-issued travel letter or a shortened-validity, limited purpose passport where a blank book is used in conjunction with a visa sticker-like vignette with the biodata fields of the sort that are historically standard for ICAO-compliant passports.

The fees to get a Swedish passport are lower in Sweden than to apply for the Swedish passport in the US. Haven't the costs to get a Swedish passport in Sweden risen too, just not as much as they have skyrocketed for Swedish citizens applying from outside of Sweden?

tanja Mar 18, 2015 8:22 am

The fee for a tempory passport has been lowered to $ 200.
I will get the permanent in Sweden.
Can I be stopped boarding a plane with one? I have no time to wait months for a passport. Have to be in Sweden by May. and yesm I have tried to renew my passport in about a year. but as I said everytime i did what I was told by swedish embassy the swedish gov. changed their rules and I had to start from the begining. Sigh .

tanja Mar 18, 2015 8:31 am

Swedish embassys had a waiting list for an appoinment for passport. If the list got to a certain number you could not even sign up. You had to come back and see when a spot was avaible. Cancellations went to those on the list.and an appointment would still be months a head. Then Sweden stopped all passport appoinments for several months to make changes ! Then they started again with the lists. And that was just a few months ago.

tanja Mar 20, 2015 1:34 pm

Just letting everyone who read this that it will be a permanent passport.
I will miss big family events. But taking the risk of not gettinge there either is big. Even the swedish embassy it could go 2 ways.
Sad but true.:(

König Mar 21, 2015 10:56 am


Originally Posted by tanja (Post 24526053)
Can I be stopped boarding a plane with one? I have no time to wait months for a passport.

Are you asking if a Swedish citizen may not be allowed to board a plane on a trip back to Sweden with a temporary passport? I find it highly improbable.

GUWonder Mar 21, 2015 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by König (Post 24542889)
Are you asking if a Swedish citizen may not be allowed to board a plane on a trip back to Sweden with a temporary passport? I find it highly improbable.

It's happened, regardless of the probability.

The TSA has made a stink over passengers only having some "emergency" travel docs -- or even emergency limited validity passports -- when proceeding to the screening checkpoints. CBP sometimes too makes a stink about it, but IME not as often as TSA has. More often than a problem with DHS employees is a problem with, or started by, airline reps over some such docs since the US used VWP as a carrot and stick to get other countries to increasingly centralize passport processing and whipped other countries into a frenzy to make passports "more secure".

Guess who has dealt with these problems: current and former Swedish government employees who have served in, or overseen, consular functions for Swedish citizens in the US over previous periods of time since the ID paranoia went epidemic domestically in the US after 9/11.

Often1 Mar 21, 2015 12:37 pm

I know that there are people who have had a "fuss" made by TSA at a checkpoint for an international trip, but I do not know anybody who was unable to overcome the "fuss" at the checkpoint, with a supervisor. Along with the passport replacing document (read temporary passport), they had been asked to produce other ID such as a DL and, barring that, other documents which tend to identify. These could include non-official ID's from an employer or a school, utility bills, vehicle registrations and the like.

GUWonder Mar 21, 2015 12:47 pm


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 24543298)
I know that there are people who have had a "fuss" made by TSA at a checkpoint for an international trip, but I do not know anybody who was unable to overcome the "fuss" at the checkpoint, with a supervisor. Along with the passport replacing document (read temporary passport), they had been asked to produce other ID such as a DL and, barring that, other documents which tend to identify. These could include non-official ID's from an employer or a school, utility bills, vehicle registrations and the like.

Thwt works with the TSA for US persons, but not so well -- if at all -- for non-US persons trying to return to their country of residence after a visit to the US.

tanja Mar 21, 2015 4:31 pm

I am a legal US resident. I dont work and have no bills. I dont drive. I am being supported by my partner. So that would not help me at all. Tempory passports are PINK and have really no info on it. Just the name. Big risk to take for $ 200 and airplane ticket. Plus being treated like I did something wrong. I am going for the real passport . That after 15 +- months and no list to go on and you name it. Eventually only emergency passports will b e issued in the USA. Cause it is getting more and more complicated. Sigh.

GUWonder Mar 22, 2015 3:35 am


Originally Posted by tanja (Post 24544160)
I am a legal US resident. I dont work and have no bills. I dont drive. I am being supported by my partner. So that would not help me at all. Tempory passports are PINK and have really no info on it. Just the name. Big risk to take for $ 200 and airplane ticket. Plus being treated like I did something wrong. I am going for the real passport . That after 15 +- months and no list to go on and you name it. Eventually only emergency passports will b e issued in the USA. Cause it is getting more and more complicated. Sigh.

I assume you have a driving license. Then info about you is likely in a variety of databases too.

tanja Mar 22, 2015 7:30 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 24545773)
I assume you have a driving license. Then info about you is likely in a variety of databases too.

You assumed wrong. I dont drive or have a drivers lisence. I wrote that in my last comment.

GUWonder Mar 22, 2015 11:01 am


Originally Posted by tanja (Post 24546397)
You assumed wrong. I dont drive or have a drivers lisence. I wrote that in my last comment.

I missed that. My bad.

[Except for living in San Francisco, I don't even want to start to imagine living in California for many years without having a driving license and a car of my own to get around.]

tanja Mar 22, 2015 2:16 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 24547147)
I missed that. My bad.

[Except for living in San Francisco, I don't even want to start to imagine living in California for many years without having a driving license and a car of my own to get around.]

I love walking and so on. Always done that.You get used to that. My partner drives. My x husband's drove. I do live outside SF.;)

tanja Mar 24, 2015 4:34 pm

A swedish man who had his things stolen in Brazil just ended up in detantion in NY.
He travelled from Brazil to NY for a transit to ... Sweden/Europe.He was there for hrs.
So if you dont know what a tempoary passport is I will tell you
It is a paper showing that you are swedish. It is not anything that could be scanned. Nothing there. Just a slip in a PINK holder.
No won der that it looks weird. EVEN if it is totally LEGAL.


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