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Originally Posted by FlyingHoustonian
(Post 24573431)
Money can't be the biggest problem for Sweden. Italy issues full passports at its US consulates and we are broke LOL
I was always amused how little Belgium got hit with provisional status (distinct from probationary status) in the VWP over passport issues while Italy was beyond being challenged when having much the same issues. Then again, I prefer gelato to Belgian waffles; and we know American tourists are more interested in visiting Italy than in visiting Belgium. :D |
Some people like to make a problem out of nothing. Emergency passports are issued mainly for the purpose of returning to a country of citizenship from abroad. Check-in agents probably know about emergency/temporary passports' existence, and if not, then their supervisors should know 100%. So, if I were the OP, I would get a temporary passport, buy a ticket (preferably from a European carrier, e.g., Lufthansa or SAS) and fly home. At a TSA podium, I would just use my Green Card as identification.
Also, it would be a good idea to apply for a local state ID even if there is no need to drive. California ID cards are quite cheap (~$30) and they can easily be issued on the basis of Green Card and SSN. I personally have both a California DL and an ID card. They look virtually identical, and once (just for fun) I even used an ID card to rent a U-Haul truck :-) Nobody noticed the difference. At least the OP could then fly domestically without carrying immigration documents with her every time (i.e., Swedish passport or Green Card). |
Originally Posted by König
(Post 24613374)
Some people like to make a problem out of nothing. Emergency passports are issued mainly for the purpose of returning to a country of citizenship from abroad. Check-in agents probably know about emergency/temporary passports' existence, and if not, then their supervisors should know 100%. So, if I were the OP, I would get a temporary passport, buy a ticket (preferably from a European carrier, e.g., Lufthansa or SAS) and fly home. At a TSA podium, I would just use my Green Card as identification.
Also, it would be a good idea to apply for a local state ID even if there is no need to drive. California ID cards are quite cheap (~$30) and they can easily be issued on the basis of Green Card and SSN. I personally have both a California DL and an ID card. They look virtually identical, and once (just for fun) I even used an ID card to rent a U-Haul truck :-) Nobody noticed the difference. At least the OP could then fly domestically without carrying immigration documents with her every time (i.e., Swedish passport or Green Card). The OP should possess an LPR card, right. That should be accepted by the TSA, but the US airlines in the main won't accept it for international travel; and having that LPR card along with the emergency travel doc isn't always accepted by airline staff. Does everyone with US LPR status (and card for such status) have a SSN? [I still see US Passports issued for people without SSNs.] Isn't it still possible to be a US LPR without a SSN? Still possible to get a CA state ID without a SSN and use it for federal inspection purposes? |
Originally Posted by König
(Post 24613374)
Some people like to make a problem out of nothing. Emergency passports are issued mainly for the purpose of returning to a country of citizenship from abroad. Check-in agents probably know about emergency/temporary passports' existence, and if not, then their supervisors should know 100%. So, if I were the OP, I would get a temporary passport, buy a ticket (preferably from a European carrier, e.g., Lufthansa or SAS) and fly home. At a TSA podium, I would just use my Green Card as identification.
Also, it would be a good idea to apply for a local state ID even if there is no need to drive. California ID cards are quite cheap (~$30) and they can easily be issued on the basis of Green Card and SSN. I personally have both a California DL and an ID card. They look virtually identical, and once (just for fun) I even used an ID card to rent a U-Haul truck :-) Nobody noticed the difference. At least the OP could then fly domestically without carrying immigration documents with her every time (i.e., Swedish passport or Green Card). |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 24613449)
Never been hit by (or known people hit by) this kind of situation? You seem to be sort of unfamiliar with the various emergency passport replacement docs provided by foreign consulates -- particularly the Swedish ones -- in the U.S. and the reports these consulates get back about some problems encountered when using them at check-in and with the TSA. Sadly, there are problems from time to time.
The OP should possess an LPR card, right. That should be accepted by the TSA, but the US airlines in the main won't accept it for international travel; and having that LPR card along with the emergency travel doc isn't always accepted by airline staff. Does everyone with US LPR status (and card for such status) have a SSN? [I still see US Passports issued for people without SSNs.] Isn't it still possible to be a US LPR without a SSN? Still possible to get a CA state ID without a SSN and use it for federal inspection purposes? Iwill get permanent pasport. I will not take a chance a being stopped at an airport. Then I am finished done and so on. |
Originally Posted by König
(Post 24613374)
Some people like to make a problem out of nothing. Emergency passports are issued mainly for the purpose of returning to a country of citizenship from abroad. Check-in agents probably know about emergency/temporary passports' existence, and if not, then their supervisors should know 100%. So, if I were the OP, I would get a temporary passport, buy a ticket (preferably from a European carrier, e.g., Lufthansa or SAS) and fly home. At a TSA podium, I would just use my Green Card as identification.
Also, it would be a good idea to apply for a local state ID even if there is no need to drive. California ID cards are quite cheap (~$30) and they can easily be issued on the basis of Green Card and SSN. I personally have both a California DL and an ID card. They look virtually identical, and once (just for fun) I even used an ID card to rent a U-Haul truck :-) Nobody noticed the difference. At least the OP could then fly domestically without carrying immigration documents with her every time (i.e., Swedish passport or Green Card). |
Just some advice
I think the advice you are getting to have multiple ID's like a CA ID is meant to be helpful. Many women use a PO box or other address that is not a home address on CA ID. And while you may never plan to fly domestically, there may come a time where you do and the suggestion to have other ID is a good one.
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Originally Posted by squeakr
(Post 24614108)
I think the advice you are getting to have multiple ID's like a CA ID is meant to be helpful. Many women use a PO box or other address that is not a home address on CA ID. And while you may never plan to fly domestically, there may come a time where you do and the suggestion to have other ID is a good one.
I will for sure look into to have a PO box. |
well if they won't take your temporary passport, you could always commit a crime that would be deportable ;)
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Originally Posted by greggarious
(Post 24646234)
well if they won't take your temporary passport, you could always commit a crime that would be deportable ;)
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 24613449)
Never been hit by (or known people hit by) this kind of situation? You seem to be sort of unfamiliar with the various emergency passport replacement docs provided by foreign consulates -- particularly the Swedish ones -- in the U.S. and the reports these consulates get back about some problems encountered when using them at check-in and with the TSA. Sadly, there are problems from time to time.
The OP should possess an LPR card, right. That should be accepted by the TSA, but the US airlines in the main won't accept it for international travel; and having that LPR card along with the emergency travel doc isn't always accepted by airline staff. I would like to hear what you'd suggest the OP to do in this situation. From your other posts on this forum, you do not seem to believe in the Occam's razor principle, that is why it would be extremely interesting to hear your thoughts on how to make it work rather than why it won't work. Does everyone with US LPR status (and card for such status) have a SSN? [I still see US Passports issued for people without SSNs.] Isn't it still possible to be a US LPR without a SSN? Still possible to get a CA state ID without a SSN and use it for federal inspection purposes? |
Originally Posted by tanja
(Post 24654703)
HM. Why do I want to get deported??? I have my home and my life here. Plus my long time partner. That would be stuprid at my age. Actually any age. Plus I have never commited any crimes. Why start now.
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Originally Posted by König
(Post 24661753)
Of course, I may not be familiar with many foreign emergency/temporary travel documents, but I know that most embassies do offer emergency passports or one-way travel documents that allow a citizen to go back to the country of citizenship. Now, if such documents were routinely rejected by airline stuff, then an embassy would either stop issuing such documents or would contact the airline and let them know that such documents should be accepted. I do understand that there is always a risk of such documents being rejected, but if I really need to travel urgently, then I would take the risk.
I would like to hear what you'd suggest the OP to do in this situation. From your other posts on this forum, you do not seem to believe in the Occam's razor principle, that is why it would be extremely interesting to hear your thoughts on how to make it work rather than why it won't work. Most people (the OP is not one of them) would like to be able to work, so they are eager to apply for a SSN as soon as they receive a Green Card or even as soon as they are issued a Work Authorisation Document while their I-485 is under review. Thus, it is unlikely to see a permanent resident without a SSN. As for native-born US citizens without a SSN, it is mostly because of their religious beliefs. I know that for both US passports and California IDs, you need to provide a SSN if you have one. It is possible to receive a California ID without a SSN, but an applicant would have to supply an official letter from the SSA explaining why this person is not eligible for a SSN. That is what I had to do back in the days when I was in H4 status and was replacing my OR DL with a CA DL. California IDs are accepted for federal identification/inspection purposes, so if a person manages to get one, then he/she is good to go. |
Yesterday was the day to try to get an appointment for a permanent passport in SF.
So I spent almost 5 hrs (started a few minutes before they opened the lines) trying to get through. There were no phone cue at all. Just had to keep dealing the number until I got through. I dealed every minute. By the time I got through the list was full. However I was put on a 10 person waiting list! A list the embassy would use in order for any cancellations the 3/4 of June. I did call TSA and asked about emergecny passports. They said if I got stopped that I hade to proove who I am with a mortgage/rent bill. Work. Utility bill and so on. With my name on it.And if I did not have that no plane Everything is in my partners name. I will wait and see if anybody cancells and take it from there. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 24564257)
Money wasn't the reason for the changes made by Sweden and all the VWP countries. US security demands were/are, with the US VWP participation being used as carrot-stick. The US conditioned/conditions VWP countries' participation in the VWP upon compliance with a variety of US-determined passport security measures, and money won't change those passport issuance requirements/restrictions.
A country* must meet various requirements to be considered for designation in the Visa Waiver Program. Requirements include, but are not limited to: *enhanced law enforcement and security-related data sharing with the United States; * issuing e-Passports; * having a visitor (B) visa refusal rate of less than three percent; * timely reporting of both blank and issued lost and stolen passports; and * maintenance of high counterterrorism, law enforcement, border control, and document security standards. Designation as a VWP country* is at the discretion of the U.S. government. Meeting the objective requirements of the VWP does not guarantee a country* will receive VWP designation. A US postal clerk facilitates US passport applications, then sends the application to some US agency, then out pops a passport two weeks later, delivered by the clerk's bowling team mate. You are claiming that a more highly paid clerk in a Swedish consulate, cannot process applications, and ship them off to Sweden? |
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