Did Air Marshal Endanger United Passengers?
Sep 9, 2014, 10:31 am
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I think his response was totally rational since most communicable diseases have a fairly long (hours-days) incubation period. So by acting quickly, he minimized the risk to himself and others. Wonder what was in the syringe?
Sep 9, 2014, 10:32 am
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Being stabbed with a syringe, the only really dangerous diseases I would worry about would be Hepatitis B, C or HIV.
There is no healthcare to speak of in Nigeria, so the best option is to board the plane and get home in order to get HIV prophylaxis and any vaccinations for Hepatitis. He is NOT going to go from being stabbed with a syringe to being contagious in a few hours time. It only works that way in movies.
There is no healthcare to speak of in Nigeria, so the best option is to board the plane and get home in order to get HIV prophylaxis and any vaccinations for Hepatitis. He is NOT going to go from being stabbed with a syringe to being contagious in a few hours time. It only works that way in movies.
Sep 9, 2014, 10:41 am
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I'm amused how many of us on FT are suddenly infectious disease experts 
The consulate staff gave him something...quite likely PEP as a precaution against HIV until he got stateside. Most likely DOS was in contact with the CDC who felt it safe for him to fly....
The consulate staff gave him something...quite likely PEP as a precaution against HIV until he got stateside. Most likely DOS was in contact with the CDC who felt it safe for him to fly....
Sep 9, 2014, 10:47 am
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I'm sure we have plenty of physicians like myself on here. It doesn't take an infectious disease expert to sort this one out. Best next step was going to the consulate, then getting home.
Sep 9, 2014, 12:32 pm
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This happened at LOS. LOS has functioning security cameras. And it's far from being free of armed Nigerian security forces.
Is it possible the people who needled the FAM were wearing medical coats and/or working for the Nigerian health authorities? Who knows yet?
So the FAM gets "attacked" at an airport -- an airport with armed government security forces -- and stands down without even trying to deck the person or persons who "needled" him?
Is it possible the people who needled the FAM were wearing medical coats and/or working for the Nigerian health authorities? Who knows yet?
So the FAM gets "attacked" at an airport -- an airport with armed government security forces -- and stands down without even trying to deck the person or persons who "needled" him?
Sep 9, 2014, 3:34 pm
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I am not saying they should have such a right, but I am saying that they may have such a right under Nigerian law.
Sep 9, 2014, 6:07 pm
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They have the right...which as soon as the first ebola case was discovered they took full advantage of and quarantined anyone they could find...unfortunately, they weren't quick enough....
Sep 10, 2014, 12:06 am
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Did Air Marshal Endanger United Passengers?
I'm trying to figure out what the guy did to provoke being attacked in such a bizarre manner in the first place. The usual demise for us Ugly Americans is a bullet or beheading. There's a lot missing from this story, at least for me.
Sep 10, 2014, 9:13 am
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I can't recall this scam ever being in play at an airport -- at least not at LOS airport. And this year? The Nigerian government security forces are very worried about militant outfits attacking places like the airport, more now than several years ago. Which makes me all the more surprised if this kind of violent scam was being run at the airport.
Sep 10, 2014, 8:42 pm
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Being stabbed with a syringe, the only really dangerous diseases I would worry about would be Hepatitis B, C or HIV.
There is no healthcare to speak of in Nigeria, so the best option is to board the plane and get home in order to get HIV prophylaxis and any vaccinations for Hepatitis. He is NOT going to go from being stabbed with a syringe to being contagious in a few hours time. It only works that way in movies.
There is no healthcare to speak of in Nigeria, so the best option is to board the plane and get home in order to get HIV prophylaxis and any vaccinations for Hepatitis. He is NOT going to go from being stabbed with a syringe to being contagious in a few hours time. It only works that way in movies.
Completely untrue on both counts. There is quality healthcare to speak of so boarding a passenger plane was not the best option.
Lagos has at least one first world clinic that I can cite. Its run by International SOS with a fully equipped ER, a crit care unit etc.
https://www.internationalsos.com/en/..._4011_3937.htm
Is healthcare for the average Nigerian worse than for the average American? YES. But please please please don't assume that just because its Nigeria all healthcare there is crap.
Sep 11, 2014, 3:21 pm
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Being stabbed with a syringe, the only really dangerous diseases I would worry about would be Hepatitis B, C or HIV.
There is no healthcare to speak of in Nigeria, so the best option is to board the plane and get home in order to get HIV prophylaxis and any vaccinations for Hepatitis. He is NOT going to go from being stabbed with a syringe to being contagious in a few hours time. It only works that way in movies.
There is no healthcare to speak of in Nigeria, so the best option is to board the plane and get home in order to get HIV prophylaxis and any vaccinations for Hepatitis. He is NOT going to go from being stabbed with a syringe to being contagious in a few hours time. It only works that way in movies.
Sep 11, 2014, 4:08 pm
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Most people where?
Hepatitis vaccinations are readily available in Nigeria. Can't speak to the extent and nature of vaccination regimes in the area.
The FAM seemed more in a rush to stick to schedule to return to the US than anything else.
Hepatitis vaccinations are readily available in Nigeria. Can't speak to the extent and nature of vaccination regimes in the area.
The FAM seemed more in a rush to stick to schedule to return to the US than anything else.
Sep 14, 2014, 7:15 pm
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Cholera has an incubation period of 0.5-4.5 days — short enough to be a danger on flight.