Frozen Liquid Through Security?
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Frozen Liquid Through Security?
Sort of a silly question, but I've always been curious, and next week, I'll get to test it out for real...
I'm making a vat of stir-fry sauce that I intend to fly with next weekend. Not a ton, but more than 3 ounces.
My question is, since I am able to freeze it, can I bring a solid block of sauce through security? I mean, technically it is not a liquid...
Thoughts?
I'm making a vat of stir-fry sauce that I intend to fly with next weekend. Not a ton, but more than 3 ounces.
My question is, since I am able to freeze it, can I bring a solid block of sauce through security? I mean, technically it is not a liquid...
Thoughts?
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I did it with water. It was a hassle though. I did it to see what will happen.
Pretty much everything can be a solid, liquid and gas state. How do they decide what is allowed and what isn't? For example if you take keys through, the metal can be melted to a liquid. Will they take our house keys from us because at the time they are in a solid state and where once in a liquid state?
Unless there is a rule saying things that are liquid at room temperature?
Pretty much everything can be a solid, liquid and gas state. How do they decide what is allowed and what isn't? For example if you take keys through, the metal can be melted to a liquid. Will they take our house keys from us because at the time they are in a solid state and where once in a liquid state?
Unless there is a rule saying things that are liquid at room temperature?
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I did it with water. It was a hassle though. I did it to see what will happen.
Pretty much everything can be a solid, liquid and gas state. How do they decide what is allowed and what isn't? For example if you take keys through, the metal can be melted to a liquid. Will they take our house keys from us because at the time they are in a solid state and where once in a liquid state?
Unless there is a rule saying things that are liquid at room temperature?
Pretty much everything can be a solid, liquid and gas state. How do they decide what is allowed and what isn't? For example if you take keys through, the metal can be melted to a liquid. Will they take our house keys from us because at the time they are in a solid state and where once in a liquid state?
Unless there is a rule saying things that are liquid at room temperature?
OTOH, i could get a really overzealous agent who might cause me no end of trouble. Hmmm...
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Though the title is intentionally misleading, they let it go through frozen solid
Though the title is intentionally misleading, they let it go through frozen solid
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The TSA's website says that ice is permitted through the checkpoint:
http://blog.tsa.gov/2009/11/response...gulp-over.html
Good luck convincing the screener at the airport though.
http://blog.tsa.gov/2009/11/response...gulp-over.html
Good luck convincing the screener at the airport though.
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The reason is that the primary liquid for which they are looking is Hydrogen Peroxide in high concentration, generally above 20%. The freezing point is 7 Deg F of 20% and even lower for the higher concentrations. It has to be in higher concentration to be dangerous. It is extremely difficult to maintain frozen hydrogen peroxide through the CP and higher concentrations are also highly unstable. The assumption is, and it is a good one, if it is frozen, it can not possibly be high concentration hydrogen peroxide.
That said, one takes a great chance that every screener knows the "frozen" protocol and follows it.
That said, one takes a great chance that every screener knows the "frozen" protocol and follows it.
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And yet they have an all out assault on the "Clear Care" contact lens solution, no matter what size bottle, because it has 3% Hydrogen Peroxide. Maybe if you freeze your clear care you can bring it through.
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Is that allowed? Are you sure that you bringing a frozen bottle water? I don't think ever allow it. Because it's against the liquid restrictions.
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Yes it is allowed, I know what you mean. It's like not being able to bring cue sticks but fishing rods are okay. It is what it is and I don't see it very often because like you said, most people don't ever think it's allowed. Those who do are probably expert travelers or someone who is able bring it through frozen, since by the time they reach the X-ray machine, it might be partially melted.
Last edited by scott523; Dec 7, 2012 at 11:09 pm


Give yourself plenty of time to plead your case, but what if your "solid" begins to melt ?