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FriendlySkies May 1, 2011 10:44 pm


Originally Posted by mn311601 (Post 16312832)
Oh, just saw that the alert doesn't expire until August 1st. Looks like you travelers are going to have a long summer.

Great, huh? :mad:

N830MH May 1, 2011 10:53 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 16312861)
Great, huh? :mad:

Yikes! I don't think it happening anytime soon.

GUWonder May 1, 2011 10:55 pm


Originally Posted by ND76 (Post 16312857)
I'm not scared of the military, for whom I have the utmost respect and regard. I'm scared of the TSA cowboys and the municipal police forces who can get on power trips.

Speaking of deploying military personnel with loaded weapons across the US after a significant segment of such personnel have suffered psychological problems -- identified or not by medical professionals -- as a result of experiences from deployment overseas in combat theaters, that might be an invitation to trouble for some that don't deserve it at home either.

N830MH May 1, 2011 10:59 pm


Originally Posted by ND76 (Post 16312857)
I'm not scared of the military, for whom I have the utmost respect and regard. I'm scared of the TSA cowboys and the municipal police forces who can get on power trips.

Right. Do you remember National Guard who works for US Airports is approximately 8 months and after that they pulled out all US Airports completely. That was back on Oct. 2001 to May 2002.

FriendlySkies May 1, 2011 11:18 pm

And there we go.. CNN just mentioned "Out of an Abundance of Caution™" :rolleyes:

GUWonder May 1, 2011 11:28 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 16313028)
And there we go.. CNN just mentioned "Out of an Abundance of Caution™" :rolleyes:

DHS/TSA "leadership" were already in motion on Sunday. Good news or bad news, DHS/TSA isn't going to make things better for Americans. This is just another sign of that.

N830MH May 1, 2011 11:39 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 16313028)
And there we go.. CNN just mentioned "Out of an Abundance of Caution™" :rolleyes:

Yes, we are listening on the news tonight. We are glad to see OBL is dead. Do you really think TSA will eliminated only ticketed passengers, shoe carnival, liquid restrictions will be eased. It is time to brings non-ticketed passengers allowed into the entire concourse.

FriendlySkies May 1, 2011 11:39 pm


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 16313106)
Yes, we are listening on the news tonight. We are glad to see OBL is dead. Do you really think TSA will eliminated only ticketed passengers, shoe carnival, liquid restrictions will be eased.

I don't think so. If anything, TSA/DHS will increase security procedures.

Flaflyer May 2, 2011 12:08 am


Originally Posted by ibdsux (Post 16312499)
1. I'm more concerned about reprisal attacks from Qaddafi - and who could blame him?

Kdaffy and Al Kidda hate the British as well as the US. How strong are they these days? Note last Friday in London a crowd of a million people gathered and Kdaffy and Al Kidda put together could not find one suicide bomber to walk into that crowd. How much more of an inviting target will they ever get?


Originally Posted by mn311601 (Post 16312781)
State Department issued global travel alert for all Americans warning of possible anti-American attacks due to the current "situation".

Also note on Saturday a certain Duke William cancelled his honeymoon trip. Not safe for Brits to go to soft targets like beach vacation spots anywhere in the world. What does that tell you? Trivia fact: OBL was in Abbottabad, named after James Abbott, an occupying British Army officer from the colonial days. If I was a Brit I would postpone non essential trips. Going to be a lot of anti Brit feelings from certain folks.


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 16313108)
I don't think so. If anything, TSA/DHS will increase security procedures.

Oh for sure. Creating longer lines pre TDC. However I cannot mention what an inviting target this is, as in another thread someone said every FT poster should be reported to Homeland Security for writing about such easy targets as the bad guys would never figure it out for themselves. Well, bad guys in Scotland and Moscow noticed packed crowd areas outside checkpoint security were easy targets, but shhhhh they must be the only ones so if no one posts it here no other bad guys will ever figure it out. :rolleyes:

PhoenixRev May 2, 2011 12:30 am


Originally Posted by Flaflyer (Post 16313205)
Oh for sure. Creating longer lines pre TDC. However I cannot mention what an inviting target this is, as in another thread someone said every FT poster should be reported to Homeland Security for writing about such easy targets as the bad guys would never figure it out for themselves. Well, bad guys in Scotland and Moscow noticed packed crowd areas outside checkpoint security were easy targets, but shhhhh they must be the only ones so if no one posts it here no other bad guys will ever figure it out. :rolleyes:

Ha!

That sounds like the guy who got on my case on a forum right after 9/11 about something I said about tracking terrorists via their cell phones. I mentioned that it was a very simple task of purchasing a pre-paid phone (like Boost or Virgin Mobile) with cash, and they guy said, "Gee, thanks for giving the terrorists a leg up on American intelligence. Now they all know how to get around being traced!"

Because, you know, buying a pre-paid cell phone (which you can do at 7-11 or Circle K or WalMart or Target) is so difficult to do, and, apparently, all terrorists are blithering idiots.

:rolleyes:

FriendlySkies May 2, 2011 12:31 am

CNN reporting that there is a "plan on the shelf" for increased security at transportation hubs, etc...

VH-RMD May 2, 2011 1:52 am


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 16313276)
CNN reporting that there is a "plan on the shelf" for increased security at transportation hubs, etc...

cue the sound of snapping latex....

N830MH May 2, 2011 2:04 am


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 16313108)
I don't think so. If anything, TSA/DHS will increase security procedures.

I don't think so either. They won't have anymore new security procedures. Enough is enough!

bluenotesro May 2, 2011 2:54 am

So Osama is dead. Big frickin' deal. DHS will simply use this, and it seems it has already started, to increase the terrorizing of the flying public.

This may actually be a benefit for them. Let's see how it spins.

FliesWay2Much May 2, 2011 5:46 am

Apparently, there are armed NG guys already patrolling NYC airports and the WTC site.

The climate of fear demands that the TSA do something visible. Some things they can do very easily that don't cost a lot of money --

1. Vehicle searches at airport entrances;
2. requiring everyone to say their names, just like at SFO;
3. Friskings for nearly everybody;
4. Increased gate rapes;
5. Packs of roving clerks going around terminals conducting random searches or people, bags, and drinks.
6. Increased harassment on subways, trains, and buses, and possibly even highways. State and local governments can do this without the TSA.

And, of course, a puppy post on PV.

The TSA will welcome this, because it buys them time from the current outrage over their screening tactics. For sure, anyone speaking out will be declared to be a sympathizer or generally UnAmerican.

It's going to be a rough week to attempt to go anywhere.

On the flip side, I suspect there will be some public debate along the lines of: "OBL is dead. Why do we have to keep doing these things at airports?"


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