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-   -   Saved AIT images? (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/practical-travel-safety-security-issues/1206207-saved-ait-images.html)

Himeno Apr 16, 2011 1:13 pm
Saved AIT images?
 
Just got this quote from a DC area TSO on another forum. (The 6 year old girl pat down made it into a thread, and the local TSO just had to jump in)

The only images that are saved are the ones with detected anomalies on them.

This is basically a "heres why we gave this person additional screening" if something ever comes up.(OIG Investigations)

It's essentially the higher up's CYA mechanism.
Sounds like the images can be and are saved.

FliesWay2Much Apr 16, 2011 1:20 pm
Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 16229815)
Just got this quote from a DC area TSO on another forum. (The 6 year old girl pat down made it into a thread, and the local TSO just had to jump in)



Sounds like the images can be and are saved.
The procurement and operational specifications require that the system save images in "training mode." As others have said, the ability to store images must be retained in the Cancer Machine's software in order for it to work. The specs also identify who, by position, has the authority to turn on image retention features. You're basically one password away from having your naked image stored, assuming you decide to go through the Cancer Machine for some reason.

Check your PM, please...

nachtnebel Apr 16, 2011 2:56 pm
TSA officials have sworn up and down, and in court, I believe, that no images are saved and that the machines do not have the capacity to save images because software that enables this is disabled in deployed machines.

So that is just one more lie in the litany of lies coming from TSA?

RatherBeOnATrain Apr 16, 2011 4:01 pm
Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 16229815)
Sounds like the images can be and are saved.
Of course those images are saved -- it would be stupid not to save those images. The programmers need that real word performance data (saved images) in order to write and test the software that will convert the scans into stick figures.

The real question is to predict when will Blogdad Bob come out and admits it. For bonus points, figure the exact wording he'll use. Here's my guess:
"Out of an abundance of caution, the TSA saves image that trigger pat-downs."

MatthewLAX Apr 16, 2011 4:11 pm
Are you talking about A Jurai Knight from spacebattles.com?

Are you positive he is a TSO?

If so, this is breaking news. We knew it was happening, but this would be the first time someone from the TSA let it slip.

doober Apr 16, 2011 6:24 pm
Originally Posted by MatthewLAX (Post 16230571)
Are you talking about A Jurai Knight from spacebattles.com?

Are you positive he is a TSO?
Another one claiming to be a TSO?

If so, this is breaking news. We knew it was happening, but this would be the first time someone from the TSA let it slip.
What RatherBeOnATrain said.

InkUnderNails Apr 16, 2011 6:44 pm
From October 25, 2010:

Would the TSA be stupid enough to install a system that could detect criminal activity, i.e. concealed explosives or weapons, and not provide a means to save the evidence obtained that led to the detaining for suspicion of criminal activity? They would actually destroy the evidence of probable cause? They would initiate an invasive body search with photographic evidence that is not capable of being retained?

Yes, I think they may be this stupid, but in this case I can not believe they were. It is incredulous to suggest that the data is not capable of being archived in specific situations and on demand.

Himeno Apr 16, 2011 6:52 pm
Originally Posted by MatthewLAX (Post 16230571)
Are you talking about A Jurai Knight from spacebattles.com?
Come now. that would be telling ;)

Are you positive he is a TSO?
Yes. I am quite sure.

ElizabethConley Apr 16, 2011 7:01 pm
Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 16229815)
Just got this quote from a DC area TSO on another forum. (The 6 year old girl pat down made it into a thread, and the local TSO just had to jump in)



Sounds like the images can be and are saved.

Yep. You've just caught the TSA in another lie. I'm not surprised. Think of what a high percentage of screenings have "anomalies". It's greater than 25%. That's a lot of saved images. I was always fairly confident they saved the images containing anomalies, at the very least.

This was going to leak eventually, it was only a matter of time. I wonder what the public will think when they learn about this.

marklyon Apr 16, 2011 7:17 pm
It only makes sense, right? They pushed for a law making release of the images illegal. Stands to reason that same would not be a concern if the images didn't exist.

WindOfFreedom Apr 16, 2011 7:31 pm
Originally Posted by ElizabethConley (Post 16231149)
Yep. You've just caught the TSA in another lie. I'm not surprised. Think of what a high percentage of screenings have "anomalies". It's greater than 25%. That's a lot of saved images. I was always fairly confident they saved the images containing anomalies, at the very least.

This was going to leak eventually, it was only a matter of time. I wonder what the public will think when they learn about this.
So folks such as chellian and myself not only get to be groped because of our "anomalies," but we also get to have our "anomalous" naked body images saved for posterity. Oh frabjous day, calloo, callay. Double the indignity, double the invasion.

And my family wonders why I will no longer fly.

Boggie Dog Apr 16, 2011 8:21 pm
Why would TSA write contract specs requiring Network Capability, Image Saving Capability, USB ports, Ethernet ports and such if no intended use of those things were planned?

Of course they save images.

FriendlySkies Apr 17, 2011 1:02 am
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 16231426)
Why would TSA write contract specs requiring Network Capability, Image Saving Capability, USB ports, Ethernet ports and such if no intended use of those things were planned?

Of course they save images.
That's right, TSA.. Keep digging the hole even deeper ^

We all knew that TSA and Blogdad Bob were full of it when they said that the machines could not save/transmit/print.. Why would they specify that the machines be able to transfer images? :rolleyes:

Lara21 Apr 17, 2011 1:38 am
Of course they save those images. Deleting those images is destroying evidence and as far as I know destroying evidence is a crime. Even if it is done by TSA/DHS.

Popperian Apr 17, 2011 2:09 am
Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 16229815)
Just got this quote from a DC area TSO on another forum. (The 6 year old girl pat down made it into a thread, and the local TSO just had to jump in)
Sounds like the images can be and are saved.
More so that they are saving huge numbers of them ... because the scanners are basically like worthless as it stands.


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