TSO's seem to have relegated enforcement of the liquids rules behind the new priority of partaking in sexual molestation, and who can blame them - looking for 1 oz. bottles of shampoo vs. feeling up a nice tight arse??? and getting paid for it. THere's only one other profession where that happens, right commuters?

I have been inadvertently been ignoring the requirement to remove my liquids from my carry on at the czechpoint for some months (years) now, and this has not been a problem. My reasoning is that I am perfectly happy to watch the american security establishment waste their time taking my liquids out of my bag, re-running them through the xray, swabbing them, whatever. It's not my problem anyway, right? Anyway, I am a little disappointed in that no TSO has detected the liquids. I gather that others are also leaving their liquids in their bags without any consequence. THis makes me happy, but I'd like to hear from our TSO friends whether or not it is now TSA policy to ignore the presence of liquids in bags, or if they are deliberately ignoring rules/regs and therefore at risk of losing their jobs, jail time, etc.

After my last trip, I'm just not packing liquids. I'll never book to any backwater anyway.

enh???

Many of us only use certain brands of shampoo, lotion, soap, toothpaste, shaving cream, apres rasage, eau-de-toilete, etc. I don't think I've touched hotel toiletries in five years and I know I'm not alone in this.

I don't know the concept of brand loyalty. Advantageous in many ways.

There's been a few times when I've gone through a checkpoint and they asked where my liquids bag was. When I said that I didn't have one, they seemed shocked and pulled my bag looking for the non existant liquids.

I don't use hotel toiletries either. Knowing that they refill half empty shampoo, etc. bottles with other half used bottles kind of gives me the heebie jeebies. I give my hotel toiletries to a convent here, where I live. The nuns don't mind the leftovers and feel like they are getting some luxury. They told me that they are supplied with Castile soaps, etc. Eww!

I do not take out my Kippie bag and have not for over a year. It has not been a problem.

Would someone here please explain why this is so?

Why does everyone continue this farce when my experience has been that it is not necessary?

Am I an outlier? Do they look at me and say "He obviously does not use toiletries, so he is not dangerous?"

I am mystified by this, I really am. If it is so darned important, why do I not get a secondary check?

I fly again this afternoon. I will leave the Kippie in my bag. Maybe, just maybe, today I will get called on it, but I would not bet on it.

Now, I will admit that if I had a half liter of water, the the whole safety of the aviation industry would be imperiled, so I do not take them. They will pull you aside in a heartbeat if you have an unopened can of dangerous Diet Coke. But, the Kippie bag seems fine.

In the past I've been told that the 100ml/3oz size was brought in as anything smaller than that cannot be detected by the x ray machine. Flew 3 internal flights last week in the US and was not picked up once so could be true

I had a tiny bottle of hand sanitized picked up by the xray in DEN.. Clerk yelled at me for not putting this bottle, which was less than 1z, in my kippy bag... I wonder if it was our favorite Denver FT clerk...

False. At PWM in years past, they've found even the tiniest ointment tube that a friend had in her purse for years.

I've forgotten to take my Kippy bag out a number of times and nobody's said anything. I'm sure they can see it, but I think, as was suggested here, that most TSOs don't care much about liquids anymore. I had an experience at PWM, which used to be very strict, where they didn't bother with two nearly full water bottles (but on the next flight out, they did bother with some other liquids).

The last 3 times that I flew (and the last flights for me until this insanity stops) I paid the fee and checked my bag for many reasons. (Yes, Commisar Janet would be proud of me!)

1. First of all, I was stressed enough, worrying about the scope'n'grope gauntlet, I didn't need to add the stress of trying to follow their inane liquid restrictions.
2. Secondly, I am getting up there in years, so it takes more than a "Kippie Bag" (love that nickname!) of toiletries to make me look and feel as beautiful as I can be.
3. Thirdly, I most definately have brand loyalty on certain items that I simply cannot do without (I even take them on camping trips), and some of them don't come in travel sizes.
4. Finally, I mix my own eye make-up remover with mineral oil and diluted glycerine water which has a very good chance of registering a false positive on the ETD.

I went lurking on this forum when trying to prepare for my flights in December 2010 as part of my research on the "new enhanced security procedures." After hearing about all the harassment that people had to endure because of these "Really Dangerous Liquids," I decided to bite the bullet and check my bags.

The only thing I keep in my Freedom Baggie is booze. I haven't taken it out for over a year with no problems until February in LAS where the clerk said the Freedom Baggie needed to be in a bin. I just replied "whatever". I will continue to keep it in my bag.

I haven't taken the kippy bag out for MANY flights and it is never noticed. I have a suspicion that TSA has decided the liquid rule no longer is needed. With that in mind, they do NOT remove the rule or publicly say the rule is gone. This allows them to have something to find when they want to hassle you or to bring up when they need it as "ammunition" for a hassle/argument.

A few points :

1) Yes they can see the small LAG in the bags on xray.
2) The rules have not changed, regardless of your personal experiences (take what you will from that!)
3) 3.4oz is the largest acceptable size for personal use LAGs that are not medicinal (medicnal items can be larger and are supposed to be removed from the carry-on and declared upon entry at the checkpoint).

Hopefully that will give you a bit more information, as the rules have not changed (with regards to the LAG regulations), I am not certain what the situation is with your specific experiences.

If it was such a big deal, then the clerks would be doing something about those of us that don't believe in this crap.

As far as medicinal, why can't I just claim that my 5.5oz toothpaste is medicinal?