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Originally Posted by jbdk
(Post 16099885)
I used a zip lock sandwich bag once since I had just three items. I was yelled at because it was not a quart. I had to get a quart size (back when they had them at the security check point) and try again.
I think of incidents like this every time I read that we would get better screeners if we paid more. ??? Really? If we paid more, we would get rid of all the current 'bad apples' and replace them with folks intelligent enough to understand the purpose of the screening, ie, a single LGA or LGAs in a small enough aggregate quantity are ok even if not in a 'regulation size' baggie? All we would get is overpaid people demonstrating the same lack of common sense - or possibly, overpaid people following idiot management directives mandating a pointless adherence to the 'letter' of the law. When SATTSO originally posted about the relaxing of the baggie size (but not the quantity allowed), I asked at the checkpoint at my home airport - more than once. Even a supervisor laughed and said not to believe everything I read on the internet - there had been no changes. It may or may not be true at SAT (I know someone who had a very bad non-baggie-related checkpoint experience there that seemed at odds with SATTSO's posts). If I ever fly through SAT, I will try to remember to 'test' and see if a gallon baggie is allowed there or not. I don't want to believe that SATTSO was trying to have a laugh at our expense, but IIRC, the website was never changed and I have been told at multiple checkpoints that there's been no change in the rules. |
Originally Posted by exbayern
(Post 16100394)
Does anyone ever have hassle about not having a 'clear' plastic baggie? All of mine say 'Allzweckbeutel' on them in large white lettering.
Actually, I would be amused to see someone take that as an insult :D not knowing any better. The only other baggies I have on hand are 1 litre size with Winnie the Pooh dancing across them - in Asia they are fairly mainstream and popular baggies. |
Originally Posted by chollie
(Post 16100397)
It may or may not be true at SAT (I know someone who had a very bad non-baggie-related checkpoint experience there that seemed at odds with SATTSO's posts).
I use that experience combined with my reading here to help support my belief that the screening experience is entirely dependent on the individual screener at that moment in time at that particular airport. Just because someone says here that something is fact or procedure does not mean that it happens that way in real life. Much as I actually believe posters such as gsoltso post in good faith, I know that I will not always encounter screeners who are as knowledgeable or well-trained as he, and must prepare for that. |
Originally Posted by exbayern
(Post 16100394)
Does anyone ever have hassle about not having a 'clear' plastic baggie? All of mine say 'Allzweckbeutel' on them in large white lettering.
Actually, I would be amused to see someone take that as an insult :D not knowing any better. The only other baggies I have on hand are 1 litre size with Winnie the Pooh dancing across them - in Asia they are fairly mainstream and popular baggies. |
Originally Posted by chollie
(Post 16100409)
PHX provides free ziplocs at the checkpoint (nice ones). They used to have baggies with a drawstring that had something like "Courtesy of the Phoenix TSA" on them. Unfortunately, those drawstring baggies were not accepted at ORD because they had the wrong type of closure. :td:
Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
(Post 16100437)
Not a problem. All of mine say "JANET NAPOLITANO IS AN IDIOT".. Have never run into any issues :)
I have no intention by the way of purchasing quart instead of litre size baggies, or finding ones which do not scream 'All purpose bag' in large white lettering on them. Nor do I feel the need to exchange my house brand baggies for some brand name baggie not readily found outside the US. I'm happy to thumb my nose and be a rebel that way, in protest of the variables we encounter at the checkpoint and having to deal with the whims or knowledge level of individual screeners. |
Originally Posted by chollie
(Post 16100409)
PHX provides free ziplocs at the checkpoint (nice ones). They used to have baggies with a drawstring that had something like "Courtesy of the Phoenix TSA" on them. Unfortunately, those drawstring baggies were not accepted at ORD because they had the wrong type of closure. :td:
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Originally Posted by exbayern
(Post 16100394)
Does anyone ever have hassle about not having a 'clear' plastic baggie? All of mine say 'Allzweckbeutel' on them in large white lettering.
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Originally Posted by exbayern
(Post 16100430)
Oooh oooh!! Pick me, pick me!! :D (I know that you are referring to someone else, but I had one too last year at SAT)
I use that experience combined with my reading here to help support my belief that the screening experience is entirely dependent on the individual screener at that moment in time at that particular airport. Just because someone says here that something is fact or procedure does not mean that it happens that way in real life. Much as I actually believe posters such as gsoltso post in good faith, I know that I will not always encounter screeners who are as knowledgeable or well-trained as he, and must prepare for that. I avoid eye contact and conversation with every TSO because any contact is an opportunity for hassle. It should not be that way and I travel enough internationally to know that it does not have to be that way. And I have a limited amount of sympathy for the 'good' TSOs, because as far as I am concerned, a 'good' TSO doesn't stand by and watch his/her fellow TSOs act like jerks and not say anything. |
Originally Posted by doober
(Post 16099653)
You will note that the person mentioned above has not posted in close to 4 months, shortly after his comments concerning gallon bags being allowed, holding cages going away and joking comments about a passenger threatening to shoot anyone who delayed him traveling through an airport.
Perhaps he is being "retrained." |
Originally Posted by LeeAnne
(Post 16100612)
Oh, SATTSO is out there. He/she (not sure which) has been vehemently attacking me in PMs daily, including today. :rolleyes: Apparently, he/she violently disagrees with my calling that TSOs do to us "sexual assault".
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Oh, SATTSO is out there. He/she (not sure which) has been vehemently attacking me in PMs daily, including today. Apparently, he/she violently disagrees with my calling that TSOs do to us "sexual assault". How people do that job, is just beyond me. I'd gladly muck out latrines before I'd don the tin badge. |
Originally Posted by divemistressofthedark
(Post 16100697)
In other news, day is night and up is actually down. :rolleyes:
How people do that job, is just beyond me. I'd gladly muck out latrines before I'd don the tin badge. |
Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
(Post 16100650)
If that is happening, I'd suggest you contact a TS/S Mod..
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Originally Posted by LeeAnne
(Post 16100612)
Oh, SATTSO is out there. He/she (not sure which) has been vehemently attacking me in PMs daily, including today. :rolleyes: Apparently, he/she violently disagrees with my calling that TSOs do to us "sexual assault".
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Originally Posted by LeeAnne
(Post 16100612)
Oh, SATTSO is out there. He/she (not sure which) has been vehemently attacking me in PMs daily, including today. :rolleyes: Apparently, he/she violently disagrees with my calling that TSOs do to us "sexual assault".
Based on the details, I don't believe the incident was at all unusual, and I'm sure that monitoring checkpoint handling of severely handicapped pax would have revealed similar incidents without jeopardizing the safety and well-being of my family member. I thought he/she was a voice of reason until 1) the business about the gallon-sized baggies being allowed (not!) and 2) he/she found it humorous when a pax 'joked' about using a gun at a checkpoint to deal with any 'opt-outs' who delayed his progress through the checkpoint. He/she seemed to think that the same TSOs who aren't allowed to exercise independent judgment about a 3/4 empty tube of toothpaste are allowed to chuckle and laugh with a pax making violent statements and determine that he poses no real threat. I'm no longer sure what is going on. I will take his advice under consideration, but I wouldn't rely on it. |
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