Community
Wiki Posts
Search

The snapping of the gloves...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 1:11 am
  #16  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
5M
100 Countries Visited
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus. Eurobonus Millionaire
Posts: 38,683
Originally Posted by Doc Savage
I'm absolutely positive the PhlyingRPh was nothing but polite with the TSA agents, as he respects what they are doing and that they are simply doing their jobs, as he has reiterated so many times.

Politeness will get you quite a lot of leeway.
I think he was perfectly polite but that respect fr the TSA was lost quite a long time ago, and was well deservedly lst.
Xyzzy is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 4:53 am
  #17  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,004
Originally Posted by xyzzy
I think he was perfectly polite but that respect fr the TSA was lost quite a long time ago, and was well deservedly lst.
DHS and its spawn is the living memorial to 9/11.
IslandBased is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 5:52 am
  #18  
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: FLL
Programs: GE, B6 True Blue, Hilton Honors, IHG
Posts: 185
This reminds of the scene in the movie Fletch. Chevy Chase (as Mr Babar) is about to get a rectal exam and the doctor snaps his gloves on. Chase starts singing Moon River and asks the doc if he ever served time. Maybe if we all started singing Moon River during every pat down at every airport in the country, TSA will think it's a mass conspiracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfzXpE0QB2U
chugger1 is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 5:30 pm
  #19  
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
40 Nights
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Greensboro
Programs: TSA
Posts: 2,496
I may have snapped gloves before when I put them, I think I haven't done it since my second year when a co-worker (joking with me) said "don't put hose on behind me". Since that time, I have made a concious effort to not do that at work. I think that many of the folks that do it, have seen it done that way on TV and such, and do so subconciously in many cases. There are sometimes where I think that knuckleheads are doing it to make a point or intimidate (which is wrong on evey level) someone. I have seen it happen many times where TSOs are not really paying attention to the fact that they snapped them (which reinforces the subconcious angle). Just my 2 cents.
gsoltso is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 5:51 pm
  #20  
Original Poster
Suspended
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: USA
Programs: UA/CO(1K-PLT), AA(PLT), QR, EK, Marriott(PLT), Hilton(DMND)
Posts: 9,538
Originally Posted by gsoltso
I may have snapped gloves before when I put them, I think I haven't done it since my second year when a co-worker (joking with me) said "don't put hose on behind me". Since that time, I have made a concious effort to not do that at work. I think that many of the folks that do it, have seen it done that way on TV and such, and do so subconciously in many cases. There are sometimes where I think that knuckleheads are doing it to make a point or intimidate (which is wrong on evey level) someone. I have seen it happen many times where TSOs are not really paying attention to the fact that they snapped them (which reinforces the subconcious angle). Just my 2 cents.
Thanks for the response, gsoltso!

I can see how, if one is in a hurry and multitasking, that one might not think about putting the gloves on in a more sensitive manner. Deliberate or accidental, it was something that struck me as being interpreted as an act of intimidation. From the passenger perspective, by opting out, it is obvious that we are likely folks that value our modesty and/or privacy. If the alternative is a pat down, that's already an attack on our body, but then to create an environment reminiscent of a prison warden getting ready to perform a rectal exam might be extremely upsetting to some.
PhlyingRPh is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 5:54 pm
  #21  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,145
Originally Posted by phoebepontiac
Yes, isn't this the classic movie motif that signals someone is about to get a rectal exam?
Absolutely - you are getting fair warning that you are about to get it in the end.
TheGolfWidow is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 5:55 pm
  #22  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,725
Originally Posted by PhlyingRPh
I can see how, if one is in a hurry and multitasking, that one might not think about putting the gloves on in a more sensitive manner. Deliberate or accidental, it was something that struck me as being interpreted as an act of intimidation. From the passenger perspective, by opting out, it is obvious that we are likely folks that value our modesty and/or privacy. If the alternative is a pat down, that's already an attack on our body, but then to create an environment reminiscent of a prison warden getting ready to perform a rectal exam might be extremely upsetting to some.
I wonder how quickly an operational order not to snap gloves would be issued after the first smurf is arrested for menacing/communicating a threat/assault?
n4zhg is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 6:05 pm
  #23  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
20 Countries Visited
500k
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DFW
Posts: 30,964
Wondering what the thugs would say if I wore my own blue gloves through the checkpoint?
Boggie Dog is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 6:07 pm
  #24  
Original Poster
Suspended
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: USA
Programs: UA/CO(1K-PLT), AA(PLT), QR, EK, Marriott(PLT), Hilton(DMND)
Posts: 9,538
Originally Posted by n4zhg
I wonder how quickly an operational order not to snap gloves would be issued after the first smurf is arrested for menacing/communicating a threat/assault?
What would the correct language to use if one is confronted by a glove snapping TSO in the future, in order to bring attention to the act, gather witnesses and link the snapping to a criminal act?
PhlyingRPh is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 6:11 pm
  #25  
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 464
Originally Posted by gsoltso
I may have snapped gloves before when I put them, I think I haven't done it since my second year when a co-worker (joking with me) said "don't put hose on behind me". Since that time, I have made a concious effort to not do that at work. I think that many of the folks that do it, have seen it done that way on TV and such, and do so subconciously in many cases. There are sometimes where I think that knuckleheads are doing it to make a point or intimidate (which is wrong on evey level) someone. I have seen it happen many times where TSOs are not really paying attention to the fact that they snapped them (which reinforces the subconcious angle). Just my 2 cents.
Almost everyone upon reaching adulthood can read if a person is trying to intimidate them.

Surely a person KNOWS if the clerk is snapping the gloves innocently or doing it to intimidate??

If you were putting on gloves like normal and just happened to snap them, I hope I could "read" you correctly. Something wrong if I couldnt
oldjonesy is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 6:17 pm
  #26  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: TSO, AS MVP, AOPA member, Private Pilot ASEL
Posts: 571
Originally Posted by PhlyingRPh
Very early in the year, I was selected for the Pervoscope at a number of airports. An observation I made was that after opting out, I would always be asked to wait (post-WTMD), and without exception, when the TSO in charge of gropes walked toward me with what seemed to be a sense of purpose, he would very visibly and loudly snap one glove on in a menacing way - hand up in the air, far in front, pumped up to make it look really big (like a 3D action figure), while the other hand would pull the glove down and then let it snap back loudly in an overly dramatic manner.

Now, this could be just a TSO multi-tasking and putting fresh gloves on as he is walking toward the opt- out, or he might want the opt-out to see that fresh gloves are being used. OTOH, it could be a deliberate and orchestrated act designed to either humor the opt-out or strike fear into him as a kind of passive-aggressive act of revenge for opting out.

Perhaps our TSO friends on this forum would like to comment on my observation. And also, perhaps, those of us who are not TSO's could refrain from personally attacking the individual TSO author of a response that one does not agree with.
I'm guilty of having done this as well. Certainly not with the intent to intimidate or anything like that, just simply trying to get the gloves on quickly and not really paying attention to how it may sound, especially with all the other alarms and ambient noise in the checkpoint. Now when I put the gloves on for a patdown, I try my best to put them on while I'm talking to the passenger so the passenger is focused more on what I am saying, rather than the gloves going on, plus I put them on with my hands pointing down, not at the passenger or up in the air (my Dr. does that....ughhhh).
TSO1973 is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 6:18 pm
  #27  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: TSO, AS MVP, AOPA member, Private Pilot ASEL
Posts: 571
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
Wondering what the thugs would say if I wore my own blue gloves through the checkpoint?
You wouldn't be the first.
TSO1973 is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 7:42 pm
  #28  
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: FLL
Programs: GE, B6 True Blue, Hilton Honors, IHG
Posts: 185
Another classic snapping of the ole rubber glove at 19 seconds. Sadly, this is probably the future fate of the flying public.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHKTE...eature=related
chugger1 is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 8:01 pm
  #29  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: North of DFW
Programs: AA PLT, HH Gold, TSA Disparager Gold, going for Platnium
Posts: 1,535
Originally Posted by TSO1973
You wouldn't be the first.
I'm surprised more people don't considering the filth I have seen at checkpoints and that has come up on swabs in the past.
Scubatooth is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 8:22 pm
  #30  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 5,051
Originally Posted by Doc Savage
I'm absolutely positive the PhlyingRPh was nothing but polite with the TSA agents, as he respects what they are doing and that they are simply doing their jobs, as he has reiterated so many times.

Politeness will get you quite a lot of leeway.
Oh, so THAT'S why TSO's are invariably polite.
LuvAirFrance is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.