Passport question's?
#2

Join Date: Nov 2010
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Have a question pertaining about my passport application.
I am a born US citizen so is my mother and father.
The question is on the DS-11 application it state's to add your first and last name, on my Birth Certificate and SSN I have both my father, and mothers maiden name, my father last name is basically like my middle name on the Birth Certificate, and SSN, When I obtained my driver's license I only have my fathers last name. So the question I ask when doing the application should I add both my fathers, and mothers last name? or could I go ahead and just use my fathers last name the way it is on my drivers license?
Also wanted to know how could I obtain the 48 page passport book? Would I have to request for it?
I am a born US citizen so is my mother and father.
The question is on the DS-11 application it state's to add your first and last name, on my Birth Certificate and SSN I have both my father, and mothers maiden name, my father last name is basically like my middle name on the Birth Certificate, and SSN, When I obtained my driver's license I only have my fathers last name. So the question I ask when doing the application should I add both my fathers, and mothers last name? or could I go ahead and just use my fathers last name the way it is on my drivers license?
Also wanted to know how could I obtain the 48 page passport book? Would I have to request for it?
My birth certificate has my birth name/maiden name. I file my state and federal taxes under my legal name, which is a fairly long hyphenated name. I replaced my SSN after marriage and it has my hyphenated name. My Ohio DL has my first and spouse's last name only - the state said it couldn't accommodate the length of my first name. So, I went to the Clerk of Courts to drop off my passport application with documents containing three different names, which was slightly entertaining but mostly annoying.
Anyway, I consider my hyphenated name my legal name and I use that name whenever I can, and that's the name I elected to use on my passport. The feds don't have an issue with my name or its length. The Clerk was quite hesitant to process my application for some reason so I had to remind the Clerk of Courts that that her job was only to ascertain my identity, which my documents (SSN, DL and marriage license) allowed her to do, regardless if I had used the long name or the DL name on the application, and that I had filled in the DL name and my maiden name on the application so I wasn't hiding anything.
Anyway, back to your issue: my question is what name do YOU consider your legal name? What name do you use for official business, like jobs and taxes? I suspect you could use either name, since you have plenty of documentation as to your identity whichever name you choose. Further, you do have to submit other names used in the past, so whichever name you didn't choose will be submitted anyway.
FWIW, I've called the State Dept./Passport division in the past and they were helpful if calling makes more sense to you after reading the responses here.
#3
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Use your given name(s) as on your birth certificate. (Added: along with any marriage license, court orders etc. which legally provide for a change of name.) That's what they will check against. All this about your parents' names and your drivers license are irrelevant unless you are answering a question about what their names are.
Last edited by Pharaoh; Feb 13, 2011 at 8:38 am Reason: Stated addition as per post below
#4

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That being said, the birth certificate is submitted as one form of primary evidence of U.S. citizenship, not as primary evidence of one's legal name. If it were strictly a name issue, then you'd certainly see married women with passports with their maiden names, and the legal name change individuals, etc. The name on the DL isn't necessarily a irrelevant issue, as you still have to show it as one of the choices for primary identification. The name on the SSN isn't irrelevant either as it's a secondary form of identification. Those of us with name "issues" get to show up with our birth certificate, DL, marriage license, court orders etc. to allow the clerk to verify our legal name in spite of the differences in names on the various documents.
Just my .02, though likely worth far less.
#7
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The acceptance facility or the passport information center would be the best place to get your answer, but it probably won't be a problem to get it the way you want it.
Fill out two sets of forms, present the one the way you want it, if they accept it fine, if they say sorry need to use both names just hand them the other one.
You can request a passport with the additional pages in it, sometimes they honor it and sometimes they do not. Not sure if the $82 fee for additional visa pages applies or not when obtaining a new passport, again that's a question for the state department.
Fill out two sets of forms, present the one the way you want it, if they accept it fine, if they say sorry need to use both names just hand them the other one.
You can request a passport with the additional pages in it, sometimes they honor it and sometimes they do not. Not sure if the $82 fee for additional visa pages applies or not when obtaining a new passport, again that's a question for the state department.
#8
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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The acceptance facility or the passport information center would be the best place to get your answer, but it probably won't be a problem to get it the way you want it.
Fill out two sets of forms, present the one the way you want it, if they accept it fine, if they say sorry need to use both names just hand them the other one.
You can request a passport with the additional pages in it, sometimes they honor it and sometimes they do not. Not sure if the $82 fee for additional visa pages applies or not when obtaining a new passport, again that's a question for the state department.
Fill out two sets of forms, present the one the way you want it, if they accept it fine, if they say sorry need to use both names just hand them the other one.
You can request a passport with the additional pages in it, sometimes they honor it and sometimes they do not. Not sure if the $82 fee for additional visa pages applies or not when obtaining a new passport, again that's a question for the state department.
#9




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I'm having a problem understanding your writing, but it seems pretty simple to me. Are you Hispanic and thus, have at least 4 names? As in Pablo Rodrigo Santos Fernandez, with Santos being your mother's maiden name and Fernandez your fathers name? If that's the case, for you passport, keep it simple and just use your first and father's name - which is your surname, as usual.
As for your middle name, that would be Rodrigo.
As for your middle name, that would be Rodrigo.
#10




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Based on anecdotal experience of people I know, you can pretty much use just about any name you have a legitimate legal claim to on a US passport. If there are complex variables
, I would just carefully choose the name you personally want to appear on the document and go with that. So long as you are include other names you have used in the past and are prepared to explain it, it shouldn't be a big deal.
, I would just carefully choose the name you personally want to appear on the document and go with that. So long as you are include other names you have used in the past and are prepared to explain it, it shouldn't be a big deal.
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I cannot provide any help on the name question.
But as for the 48 page book, yes, all you need to do is request it. I think it is a tick box on the form, but just ask. And be sure you ask, as if you do not, they will give you a 24-pager, and from last year they started charging 83 USD to add new pages!
But as for the 48 page book, yes, all you need to do is request it. I think it is a tick box on the form, but just ask. And be sure you ask, as if you do not, they will give you a 24-pager, and from last year they started charging 83 USD to add new pages!
#12


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As others have said, you can have just about any name you are lawfully entitled to use on your passport. If the name on the passport application differs substantially from the one on your birth certificate, you may need to supply additional documentation (marriage/divorce certificates, name change petition, adoption papers, etc.) to support the difference.
There shouldn't be any great difficulty with having a passport with a name that doesn't match the one on your drivers license. Your passport is the definitive identification document. I've been asked for a passport or a drivers license for identification, but never both at the same time. It's not likely that anyone will ever have an opportunity to know there's a difference, if there is one.
There shouldn't be any great difficulty with having a passport with a name that doesn't match the one on your drivers license. Your passport is the definitive identification document. I've been asked for a passport or a drivers license for identification, but never both at the same time. It's not likely that anyone will ever have an opportunity to know there's a difference, if there is one.
Last edited by scoow; Feb 16, 2011 at 7:56 am Reason: off-topic

