Add me to the passenger list.

I believe that beheading thing happened up in nice peaceful CANADA. :eek:

Actually, I find that comforting. Thanks.

Non-responsive personal attack. Noted.

I believe you are correct, and I'm with you. We are reminded again this weekend that by global norms this is a fantastically violent country, and we are unique among developed nations in believing that more weaponry leads to a safer society.

I, like FlyingHoustonian, fly regularly on GA aircraft. I would fly Liberty with no more a second thought than I would getting on a Chicago, Boston or NYC bus or train.

I no longer permit my aged parents to fly on scheduled commercial airlines because of the shoe shuffle/gategrope/electronic strip search. They simply would not tolerate this. They now fly charter or private aircraft exclusively. I would, without hesitation buy them a ticket on Liberty as my father would most certainly club with his cane any TSA agent who attempted to feel his genetalia.

With two people traveling together on a 500 mile trip, the cost can be competitive with the airlines, you can take your can of soda with you, and even your firearms, if you are so inclined. And you can travel on your schedule.

Fortunately, I have enough friends who are pilots to pull this off. Unfortunately, this is a resource many do not have, and because of it their elderly parents remain home, unable to tolerate the security portion of the air travel experience due to declining mental or physical abilities of advanced age.

And the only country on the face of the earth that believes checking the genitals, breasts, and anuses of every passenger is a valid way to secure air flights.

We are also unique in having a Constitution/Bill of Rights that explicitly recognizes freedom of speech, (allegedly) freedom from unreasonable searches, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, and that the national government has only those rights that the Constitution grants to it. Lately, though, the national government is acting as though the Constitution does not matter.

I get on trains (almost) daily with no security check. Ditto for busses, the shopping mall, Chipotle, Target, stadiums, theaters, hospitals... etc. etc. and I haven't been died of a terrorist attack yet.

What makes an airplane special? :confused:

9/11/2001. Think of the children. :rolleyes:

Wow. Your response came after mine, where I indicated I've "acted that way" for nearly all my life....

"I flew airlines when people were hijacking aircraft for money (1960's). I flew aircraft when people were hijacking them, killing passengers, and blowing the aircraft up. (1980's). I flew airlines when the incidence of passenger on passenger violence was higher than today."

Call me all talk if you want, but I've flown in much riskier situations. Ironically, the very actions taken in this environment to keep us "safe" vastly increase the risk to our freedoms. And at least I have flown in riskier situations before.

We can argue forever about the practical definition of a well-regulated militia, but I'm with you most of the way. What's disturbing is how most people are willing to forfeit the Constitution in return for false promises of security. This is how nations decline.

What was it in what I wrote that you consider an attack? It was not meant as one. I am sorry it was perceived as such. It was a statement that given our obvious different views of the subject under discussion that neither you nor I would be inconvenienced by having to share a flight with the other. I would be where I wanted to be and you would be where you wanted. It is an expression of a potential liberty that currently we both can not enjoy.

Well, as I said, I've done, and still do it weekly. Not to metion in other countries and states (Like Alaska, where there are no TSA flights I've taken) there are plenty of non-security airline flights.
Most recently I did another trip on various Maya Island, and Tropic air flights in Belize, even sitting in the co-pilots seat twice (as they sell those to paying pax) and amazingly we didn't die.

Being that there are literally 1000s of planes flying over your head everyday with multiple pax and no TSA protection, you might want to build a safe room...

Ciao,
FH

Sorry, but I have to ask - paranoid much?

Okay, so apparently you don't like guns. Fine. Why is someone openly carrying - or even concealed-carrying - a firearm automatically someone to fear?

Me, if I saw someone carrying and doing nothing worth ACTUALLY worrying about, I might strike up a short conversation with him. If it looked like he was trying to CCW and I saw his weapon, I might say something along the lines of "Excuse me, but you're printing/exposing your pistol.", as appropriate. After that, or if he was carrying openly, I might ask what he was carrying and how he liked it. And then, most likely, I wouldn't give it a second thought.

I'd fly Liberty Air in a heartbeat. Better no security at all than the illusion of it backed by nothing more than meaningless and intrusive security theater.

Pattern.