Primer cartridges (for bullets) explodes in luggage, causing scare.
Dec 28, 2010 | 10:38 pm
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Yeah and everyone would get the cavity search too because when it comes to the TSA/DHS they think that everyone would be stuffed full of them too from granny to the 2 day old baby because...
TSA/DHS sees every passenger as already being guilty for wanting to travel by plane.
TSA/DHS sees every passenger as already being guilty for wanting to travel by plane.
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Dec 29, 2010 | 12:01 am
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Yeah and everyone would get the cavity search too because when it comes to the TSA/DHS they think that everyone would be stuffed full of them too from granny to the 2 day old baby because...
TSA/DHS sees every passenger as already being guilty for wanting to travel by plane.
TSA/DHS sees every passenger as already being guilty for wanting to travel by plane.
By adopting Chicken Little rather than Patrick Henry as their Patron Saint there is no low to which they will not stoop.
Damnit, TSA, you should be seeking to partner with the overall US population, and not with the inane "see something, say something" campaign either.
Start with a body cavity search of all TSA/DHS employees to make sure their heads are not inserted there.
Dec 29, 2010 | 2:57 am
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UPDATE If you re-visit the link, it turns out it wasn't hairspray, more so bullets.
The unidentified 37-year-old man had 500 to 700 bullet primers in his luggage. Primers are considered the "spark plugs" of a bullet and ignites the gun powder, projecting it toward the intended target.
The unidentified 37-year-old man had 500 to 700 bullet primers in his luggage. Primers are considered the "spark plugs" of a bullet and ignites the gun powder, projecting it toward the intended target.
The hazard class denoted on the hazmat label is 1.4S:
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Dec 29, 2010 | 6:31 am
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More stuff exploding in checked luggage
Explosives in checked luggage, never seen by the TSA, which was too busy checking passengers for shampoo.
Dec 29, 2010 | 6:41 am
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Unfortunately, the primers detonating in the luggage will not be seen as evidence of just how silly the whole "securing the flight" nonsense has gotten, but as evidence of how more money should be funneled into the TSA so that it can be wasted on hiring idiots to carry out half-witted procedures that they're never properly trained on in the first place - or worse, buy more expensive toys with shiny screens and blinking lights that will end up warehoused as "not functional" like the "explosive-detecting air machines" that got shelved.
I will bet my naughty bits that Janet Napolitano and John Pistole learned well from Chertoff, and are positioning themselves to make a hefty profit from frightening the sheeple.
I will bet my naughty bits that Janet Napolitano and John Pistole learned well from Chertoff, and are positioning themselves to make a hefty profit from frightening the sheeple.
Dec 29, 2010 | 7:54 am
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Dec 29, 2010 | 8:32 am
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Leverock said part of a shirt inside the bag was charred, but the movement of the bag is what set off the explosion.
Dec 29, 2010 | 9:22 am
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Assuming the primers were in the original packaging there is almost no way they could detonate. This sounds fishy! Unless the guy wanted it to explod easily. Very strange. Jim
Dec 29, 2010 | 10:01 am
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Nevertheless, not smart to pack them open or not.
Of course the effect here will be a ban on checked hairspray and aerosols, as primers already are not supposed to be in luggage, out of an abundance of caution.
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Dec 29, 2010 | 11:13 am
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Dec 30, 2010 | 5:29 am
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Primers are actually better-protected from shock and impact when inserted in a cartridge case - the case surrounds most of the primer and shields it from impacts. Only the back of the primer is exposed, and in order to discharge the cartridge, you need to strike it hard with a narrow/pointy object (pistols hit the primers with the firing pin, which has a diameter smaller than the primer, to set off the cartridge). When the primer is in the open, the explosive mix in the primer cup is open to atmosphere, or, say, being hit by a pen tip or something. Yeah, it almost seems a little counter-intuitive that they're less of a hazard when assembled into a cartridge, but that's just the way it is.
Dec 30, 2010 | 6:09 am
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Moderators, maybe best to merge this thread with
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...ing-scare.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...ing-scare.html
Dec 30, 2010 | 8:51 am
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Primers are actually better-protected from shock and impact when inserted in a cartridge case - the case surrounds most of the primer and shields it from impacts. Only the back of the primer is exposed, and in order to discharge the cartridge, you need to strike it hard with a narrow/pointy object (pistols hit the primers with the firing pin, which has a diameter smaller than the primer, to set off the cartridge). When the primer is in the open, the explosive mix in the primer cup is open to atmosphere, or, say, being hit by a pen tip or something. Yeah, it almost seems a little counter-intuitive that they're less of a hazard when assembled into a cartridge, but that's just the way it is.