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Dec 6, 2010 | 11:19 pm
#31
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Arizona, USA
Posts: 2,424
Humiliation of women at airports is nothing new. This story reports that there were 52 women, but I think there were actually 87. They settled for $1.9 million. I wonder if anyone at the TSA even knows about this case.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9806/08/strip.search/
Discrimination alleged in Customs searches
Black women say they were singled out unfairly
June 8, 1998
Web posted at: 10:10 p.m. EDT (0210 GMT)
From Correspondent Patty Davis
CHICAGO (CNN) -- A group of black women have filed a class-action lawsuit against the U.S. Customs Service alleging that they were unfairly targeted for searches at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport.
The lawsuit alleges that as many as 52 black women were subjected to pat-downs and intrusive searches at the airport when they returned from trips.
The suit seeks to change the Customs Service's non-routine search policy and seeks actual and punitive damages. Ed Fox, the attorney who filed the suit, said none of the searches turned up anything illegal.
"The Customs agents are racially discriminating against blacks and targeting them for being strip-searched. And coupled with that, they are doing body searches, body cavity searches, pat-down strip searches without the appropriate legal cause that they need to undertake a search like that," he said.
Jacqueline Jones was returning from Germany when Customs agents pulled her aside, checked her bags and ordered a strip search. She said she was taken to a room that looked like a "South American torture chamber."
"I was so afraid I didn't know what they were going to do," she said. "So I go there, I'm standing against the wall, all of a sudden I've got my legs spread, the woman searches me. This is a full body type search -- breast all the way down -- including putting her hand between my legs."
Gwendolyn Richards was returning from Jamaica when Customs officials took her to a hospital in handcuffs.
"I was on the table with my legs in the stirrups, and the doctor checked me out and she basically told me that I was clean," she said.
Customs officials acknowledge that the searches were conducted but deny that race has anything to do with who they choose to search.
"We do have the legal right to do what we do," said Irene Prince of the Customs Service. "The good guys sometimes get caught up with the bad guys. And I wish that people would understand that we're here trying to do a job."
That is little comfort for Richards.
"You can never give me enough to compensate for what I feel in here," she said, pointing to her chest.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9806/08/strip.search/
Discrimination alleged in Customs searches
Black women say they were singled out unfairly
June 8, 1998
Web posted at: 10:10 p.m. EDT (0210 GMT)
From Correspondent Patty Davis
CHICAGO (CNN) -- A group of black women have filed a class-action lawsuit against the U.S. Customs Service alleging that they were unfairly targeted for searches at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport.
The lawsuit alleges that as many as 52 black women were subjected to pat-downs and intrusive searches at the airport when they returned from trips.
The suit seeks to change the Customs Service's non-routine search policy and seeks actual and punitive damages. Ed Fox, the attorney who filed the suit, said none of the searches turned up anything illegal.
"The Customs agents are racially discriminating against blacks and targeting them for being strip-searched. And coupled with that, they are doing body searches, body cavity searches, pat-down strip searches without the appropriate legal cause that they need to undertake a search like that," he said.
Jacqueline Jones was returning from Germany when Customs agents pulled her aside, checked her bags and ordered a strip search. She said she was taken to a room that looked like a "South American torture chamber."
"I was so afraid I didn't know what they were going to do," she said. "So I go there, I'm standing against the wall, all of a sudden I've got my legs spread, the woman searches me. This is a full body type search -- breast all the way down -- including putting her hand between my legs."
Gwendolyn Richards was returning from Jamaica when Customs officials took her to a hospital in handcuffs.
"I was on the table with my legs in the stirrups, and the doctor checked me out and she basically told me that I was clean," she said.
Customs officials acknowledge that the searches were conducted but deny that race has anything to do with who they choose to search.
"We do have the legal right to do what we do," said Irene Prince of the Customs Service. "The good guys sometimes get caught up with the bad guys. And I wish that people would understand that we're here trying to do a job."
That is little comfort for Richards.
"You can never give me enough to compensate for what I feel in here," she said, pointing to her chest.
Dec 6, 2010 | 11:34 pm
#32
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Los Angeles, CA; Philadelphia, PA
Programs: FA
Posts: 6,485
Humiliation of women at airports is nothing new. This story reports that there were 52 women, but I think there were actually 87. They settled for $1.9 million. I wonder if anyone at the TSA even knows about this case.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9806/08/strip.search/
Discrimination alleged in Customs searches
Black women say they were singled out unfairly
June 8, 1998
Web posted at: 10:10 p.m. EDT (0210 GMT)
From Correspondent Patty Davis
CHICAGO (CNN) -- A group of black women have filed a class-action lawsuit against the U.S. Customs Service alleging that they were unfairly targeted for searches at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport.
The lawsuit alleges that as many as 52 black women were subjected to pat-downs and intrusive searches at the airport when they returned from trips.
The suit seeks to change the Customs Service's non-routine search policy and seeks actual and punitive damages. Ed Fox, the attorney who filed the suit, said none of the searches turned up anything illegal.
"The Customs agents are racially discriminating against blacks and targeting them for being strip-searched. And coupled with that, they are doing body searches, body cavity searches, pat-down strip searches without the appropriate legal cause that they need to undertake a search like that," he said.
Jacqueline Jones was returning from Germany when Customs agents pulled her aside, checked her bags and ordered a strip search. She said she was taken to a room that looked like a "South American torture chamber."
"I was so afraid I didn't know what they were going to do," she said. "So I go there, I'm standing against the wall, all of a sudden I've got my legs spread, the woman searches me. This is a full body type search -- breast all the way down -- including putting her hand between my legs."
Gwendolyn Richards was returning from Jamaica when Customs officials took her to a hospital in handcuffs.
"I was on the table with my legs in the stirrups, and the doctor checked me out and she basically told me that I was clean," she said.
Customs officials acknowledge that the searches were conducted but deny that race has anything to do with who they choose to search.
"We do have the legal right to do what we do," said Irene Prince of the Customs Service. "The good guys sometimes get caught up with the bad guys. And I wish that people would understand that we're here trying to do a job."
That is little comfort for Richards.
"You can never give me enough to compensate for what I feel in here," she said, pointing to her chest.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9806/08/strip.search/
Discrimination alleged in Customs searches
Black women say they were singled out unfairly
June 8, 1998
Web posted at: 10:10 p.m. EDT (0210 GMT)
From Correspondent Patty Davis
CHICAGO (CNN) -- A group of black women have filed a class-action lawsuit against the U.S. Customs Service alleging that they were unfairly targeted for searches at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport.
The lawsuit alleges that as many as 52 black women were subjected to pat-downs and intrusive searches at the airport when they returned from trips.
The suit seeks to change the Customs Service's non-routine search policy and seeks actual and punitive damages. Ed Fox, the attorney who filed the suit, said none of the searches turned up anything illegal.
"The Customs agents are racially discriminating against blacks and targeting them for being strip-searched. And coupled with that, they are doing body searches, body cavity searches, pat-down strip searches without the appropriate legal cause that they need to undertake a search like that," he said.
Jacqueline Jones was returning from Germany when Customs agents pulled her aside, checked her bags and ordered a strip search. She said she was taken to a room that looked like a "South American torture chamber."
"I was so afraid I didn't know what they were going to do," she said. "So I go there, I'm standing against the wall, all of a sudden I've got my legs spread, the woman searches me. This is a full body type search -- breast all the way down -- including putting her hand between my legs."
Gwendolyn Richards was returning from Jamaica when Customs officials took her to a hospital in handcuffs.
"I was on the table with my legs in the stirrups, and the doctor checked me out and she basically told me that I was clean," she said.
Customs officials acknowledge that the searches were conducted but deny that race has anything to do with who they choose to search.
"We do have the legal right to do what we do," said Irene Prince of the Customs Service. "The good guys sometimes get caught up with the bad guys. And I wish that people would understand that we're here trying to do a job."
That is little comfort for Richards.
"You can never give me enough to compensate for what I feel in here," she said, pointing to her chest.
LAX
Dec 7, 2010 | 12:45 am
#33
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,964
It's never been true. As ScatterX and rove312 said, the logistics just don't work, but TSA has allowed the assumption to continue. See my post yesterday over here.
I won't say 'everybody lies', but sometimes people post things which may not be correct.
Dec 7, 2010 | 2:12 am
#35
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,964
What you see is not what you get. I have said this before there is no benefit to sending someone that is gorgeous to the ait. You cant see the features of the beauty in detail. There is no identity. There is nothing erotic or sensual about it. The gesture that you saw could have meant a lot of things but you said yourself that she had leggings on. That was one reason right there.
Now leggings is your reason? Dresses, skirts, kilts, 'bulky' clothing, and now leggings??!!! What is the rationale for this please? Leggings are definitely not bulky.
Dec 7, 2010 | 2:12 am
#36
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Seattle WA USA
Programs: AS MVP Gold, Hilton Diamond, Starbucks/Marriott Gold, IHG Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, and some others
Posts: 251
While in line I was watching who got sent through the scanner. The only two men I saw scanned looked sort of "rough" - scraggly beards, long unkept hair, dressed "rough"... no other men were scanned in the 10 minutes I was in line.
As I looked at the line, I saw 8 women who I thought were attractive. They were the only other ones scanned while I was in line.
Creepy.
Dec 7, 2010 | 2:20 am
#37
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,964
- sweaters
- sweatshirts
- skirts
- dresses
- kilts
- leggings
- leg warmers
AND any clothing they personally consider 'bulky'
That clearly doesn't leave much if both form fitting and loose clothing makes their list.
Something is very wrong here, and at least many of us can see it.
Dec 7, 2010 | 2:29 am
#38
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Hill, Washington
Programs: AA 1M mile Gold, AS, BA, WN, SPG Gold
Posts: 174
According to our TSOs, women will be selected for wearing
- sweaters
- sweatshirts
- skirts
- dresses
- kilts
- leggings
- leg warmers
AND any clothing they personally consider 'bulky'
That clearly doesn't leave much if both form fitting and loose clothing makes their list.
Something is very wrong here, and at least many of us can see it.
- sweaters
- sweatshirts
- skirts
- dresses
- kilts
- leggings
- leg warmers
AND any clothing they personally consider 'bulky'
That clearly doesn't leave much if both form fitting and loose clothing makes their list.
Something is very wrong here, and at least many of us can see it.
Dec 7, 2010 | 2:35 am
#39
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,964
Unfortunately the percentage of female frequent flyers is lower than male, and while we have had many new women join us here I don't think that the outrage is being heard yet in the wider world.
Dec 7, 2010 | 3:35 am
#40
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Hill, Washington
Programs: AA 1M mile Gold, AS, BA, WN, SPG Gold
Posts: 174
Now add those other uniquely female inconveniences such as sanitary napkins, breasts larger than an A cup, breast implants, prosthetic breasts, etc and I can see how we make life so difficult for them.
Unfortunately the percentage of female frequent flyers is lower than male, and while we have had many new women join us here I don't think that the outrage is being heard yet in the wider world.
Unfortunately the percentage of female frequent flyers is lower than male, and while we have had many new women join us here I don't think that the outrage is being heard yet in the wider world.
But really, they're not sexist. Everybody lies.
Dec 7, 2010 | 6:23 am
#41
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Denton County, TX
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 737
I'm sorry and I don't mean to "high-jack" the thread since this slightly off topic but is it true that this can happen to someone at a border? I know this doesn't relate to TSA but it is absolutely nauseating.
I think what might be worse is the cavalier reply from "Irene Prince". What if that were her monther or daughter? I would hope that they had DAMN good reasonable suspicion to do that to someone.
"Gwendolyn Richards was returning from Jamaica when Customs officials took her to a hospital in handcuffs.
"I was on the table with my legs in the stirrups, and the doctor checked me out and she basically told me that I was clean," she said.
Customs officials acknowledge that the searches were conducted but deny that race has anything to do with who they choose to search.
"We do have the legal right to do what we do," said Irene Prince of the Customs Service. "The good guys sometimes get caught up with the bad guys. And I wish that people would understand that we're here trying to do a job."
I think what might be worse is the cavalier reply from "Irene Prince". What if that were her monther or daughter? I would hope that they had DAMN good reasonable suspicion to do that to someone.
"Gwendolyn Richards was returning from Jamaica when Customs officials took her to a hospital in handcuffs.
"I was on the table with my legs in the stirrups, and the doctor checked me out and she basically told me that I was clean," she said.
Customs officials acknowledge that the searches were conducted but deny that race has anything to do with who they choose to search.
"We do have the legal right to do what we do," said Irene Prince of the Customs Service. "The good guys sometimes get caught up with the bad guys. And I wish that people would understand that we're here trying to do a job."
Last edited by TXagogo; Dec 7, 2010 at 6:23 am Reason: typo
Dec 7, 2010 | 6:35 am
#42
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: SEA/YVR/BLI
Programs: UA "Lifetime" Gold, AS Titanium, OW Emerald, HH Lifetime Diamond, IC Plat, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 9,583
'Baywatch' Beauty Feels Overexposed After TSA Scan
This was linked in a post up-thread but I think it bears re-posting as it continues to be displayed.. This kind of publicity serves to remind the public, particularly females, that neither the government nor specifically the TSA should be allowed to deny the feelings of citizens as a matter of policy.
D'Errico has made a very strong case both for her and her son in this regard.
(Dec. 6) -- A former "Baywatch" beauty is feeling overexposed after going through what she says was a humiliating body scan by Transportation Security Administration agents at Los Angeles International Airport.
Donna D'Errico, who was the Playboy Playmate in September 1995, says she got a few leers along with the scan and isn't happy about it.
D'Errico, 42, says the encounter occurred at LAX while trying to catch a flight to Pittsburgh with her son, Rhyan, 17.
http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/ar...est=latestnews
D'Errico has made a very strong case both for her and her son in this regard.
(Dec. 6) -- A former "Baywatch" beauty is feeling overexposed after going through what she says was a humiliating body scan by Transportation Security Administration agents at Los Angeles International Airport.
Donna D'Errico, who was the Playboy Playmate in September 1995, says she got a few leers along with the scan and isn't happy about it.
D'Errico, 42, says the encounter occurred at LAX while trying to catch a flight to Pittsburgh with her son, Rhyan, 17.
http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/ar...est=latestnews
Dec 7, 2010 | 9:55 am
#43
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 5,051
I'm on her side. But a Playboy Playmate has a history of getting more than a "few leers". Leers are the entire reason for having Playboy Playmates. I'm not even against the leers, but I guess she'd make the case she never had to SEE the men drooling and leering. And I guess that makes it more palateable alright.
Dec 7, 2010 | 12:18 pm
#44
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SNA, LAX
Posts: 425
I'm on her side. But a Playboy Playmate has a history of getting more than a "few leers". Leers are the entire reason for having Playboy Playmates. I'm not even against the leers, but I guess she'd make the case she never had to SEE the men drooling and leering. And I guess that makes it more palateable alright.
Dec 7, 2010 | 12:30 pm
#45
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 392
Now add those other uniquely female inconveniences such as sanitary napkins, breasts larger than an A cup, breast implants, prosthetic breasts, etc and I can see how we make life so difficult for them.
Unfortunately the percentage of female frequent flyers is lower than male, and while we have had many new women join us here I don't think that the outrage is being heard yet in the wider world.
Unfortunately the percentage of female frequent flyers is lower than male, and while we have had many new women join us here I don't think that the outrage is being heard yet in the wider world.
You know, it might just be the women that have the ability to bring down the TSA. I still say that TSA is no match for PMS. I think I'm going to have a T-shirt made up with that on it.
