Ways to fix the patdown problem
Nov 25, 2010 | 7:21 am
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Ways to fix the patdown problem
From SmarterTravel:
http://www.smartertravel.com/blogs/t...0&u=SLF8932575
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We cannot protect ourselves from every conceivable threat, and we need to acknowledge that while focusing on a security strategy that is efficient, reasonable, and effective, and in tune with the hierarchy of threat. What we have right now is none of those things. We are literally strip-searching the entire flying public, from preschoolers to pilots, and rifling through their bags for thingsknives and scissorsthat are harmless in the first place. All of this while freight from overseas goes uninspected for bombs and explosives."
TSA has become a government jobs program. Give them all shovels and let them repair Americas roads. We had prior knowledge of Pan Am 103, the jihadists of 9/11, the shoe bomber and the Christmas bomber. We need better application of intelligence. We dont need the new airport routine. Let Americans travel freely at the airport, and let the CIA, NSA, and FBI do their jobs. We can handle risk. After all, isnt this the land of the free and the home of the brave?
http://www.smartertravel.com/blogs/t...0&u=SLF8932575
Quotes:
We cannot protect ourselves from every conceivable threat, and we need to acknowledge that while focusing on a security strategy that is efficient, reasonable, and effective, and in tune with the hierarchy of threat. What we have right now is none of those things. We are literally strip-searching the entire flying public, from preschoolers to pilots, and rifling through their bags for thingsknives and scissorsthat are harmless in the first place. All of this while freight from overseas goes uninspected for bombs and explosives."
TSA has become a government jobs program. Give them all shovels and let them repair Americas roads. We had prior knowledge of Pan Am 103, the jihadists of 9/11, the shoe bomber and the Christmas bomber. We need better application of intelligence. We dont need the new airport routine. Let Americans travel freely at the airport, and let the CIA, NSA, and FBI do their jobs. We can handle risk. After all, isnt this the land of the free and the home of the brave?
Nov 25, 2010 | 7:35 am
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Use their rul3es against them
The TSA web site clearly states, "You have the right to ask a Security Officer to change his/her gloves during the physical inspection of your accessible property, before performing a physical search (pat-down), or any time a Security Officer handles your footwear."
I would assume your "accessible property" starts with your boarding pass. Print out the page from the TSA website (I do every time I fly) and give it to EVERY TSA person along the way. It's their rule. They cannot dispute it or refuse it.
Another issue is infection control. As an infectious disease consultant who understands especially how children touch their clothing then put their hands in their mouths I don't want a person who has patted down 100 people and had his/her hand in somebody's pants touching any member of my family with infected gloves.
Imagine a couple of thousand innocent citizens making every agent chgange gloves between pat-downs, boarding pass inspection, touching your stuff on the x-ray macine conveyor belt. Wow! We could possibly affect change to a totally stupid policy.
You NEED the printed paper. Most TSA workers are not educated enough to know their own rules. I always expect them to ask me, "Do you want fries with that" when they check me.
We need better educated and better trained people in TSA. We need to change the rules of the game and make them know that we know the rules better than they do. Go to the TSA web site.rint the page. INsist on it.
One mistake by a TSA employee and believe me it will be......instyant pandemic.
I would assume your "accessible property" starts with your boarding pass. Print out the page from the TSA website (I do every time I fly) and give it to EVERY TSA person along the way. It's their rule. They cannot dispute it or refuse it.
Another issue is infection control. As an infectious disease consultant who understands especially how children touch their clothing then put their hands in their mouths I don't want a person who has patted down 100 people and had his/her hand in somebody's pants touching any member of my family with infected gloves.
Imagine a couple of thousand innocent citizens making every agent chgange gloves between pat-downs, boarding pass inspection, touching your stuff on the x-ray macine conveyor belt. Wow! We could possibly affect change to a totally stupid policy.
You NEED the printed paper. Most TSA workers are not educated enough to know their own rules. I always expect them to ask me, "Do you want fries with that" when they check me.
We need better educated and better trained people in TSA. We need to change the rules of the game and make them know that we know the rules better than they do. Go to the TSA web site.rint the page. INsist on it.
One mistake by a TSA employee and believe me it will be......instyant pandemic.
Nov 25, 2010 | 7:48 am
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Please follow discussion regarding gloves and the change of them before beginning a new search in this thread:
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Please follow discussion regarding gloves and the change of them before beginning a new search in this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...ssion-tsa.html
Thank you
FLYGVA
Nov 25, 2010 | 7:52 am
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You NEED the printed paper. Most TSA workers are not educated enough to know their own rules. I always expect them to ask me, "Do you want fries with that" when they check me.
We need better educated and better trained people in TSA. We need to change the rules of the game and make them know that we know the rules better than they do. Go to the TSA web site.rint the page. INsist on it.
One mistake by a TSA employee and believe me it will be......instyant pandemic.
We need better educated and better trained people in TSA. We need to change the rules of the game and make them know that we know the rules better than they do. Go to the TSA web site.rint the page. INsist on it.
One mistake by a TSA employee and believe me it will be......instyant pandemic.
Printouts don't help. Ask this woman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh1h5Mvc3MM
Nov 25, 2010 | 8:16 am
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The video really pi$$e$ me off. And the 'special inspection station'? Never seen one overseas. Why not just make the naughty pax go stand in the corner?
Childish TSA BS. This agency is really in need of being dissolved.
Childish TSA BS. This agency is really in need of being dissolved.