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InkUnderNails Nov 7, 2010 10:05 pm

BNA this afternoon was an absolute travesty. It took over an hour to clear. Only three WTMD open until I finally got to the end of the line when they opened another one. The lines were backed up both sides all the way into the ticketing area. No one could move. No NOS in use, no pat downs. Just xray and WTMD.

They are usually pretty good here, but someone really, really lost control. They did not even bother to ETD my bag of equipment, which gets done at 90% of check points. And should. I'll post a photo sometime. So, not only was the security a farce, they were no even pretending.

Lots of running, small computers back through, though.

I have not seen a mess like this since the new security area was finished.

zefatcheese Nov 8, 2010 4:24 am


Originally Posted by InkUnderNails (Post 15095589)
BNA this afternoon was an absolute travesty. It took over an hour to clear. Only three WTMD open until I finally got to the end of the line when they opened another one. The lines were backed up both sides all the way into the ticketing area. No one could move. No NOS in use, no pat downs. Just xray and WTMD.

They are usually pretty good here, but someone really, really lost control. They did not even bother to ETD my bag of equipment, which gets done at 90% of check points. And should. I'll post a photo sometime. So, not only was the security a farce, they were no even pretending.

Lots of running, small computers back through, though.

I have not seen a mess like this since the new security area was finished.

Americans have to visit Israel and demand Israeli-style security, not the jack-boot Mickey Mouse pantomime nonsense we have in the US.

In Israel, they don't do this. See my post on a typical Israeli airport experience :)

N965VJ Nov 8, 2010 8:41 am


Originally Posted by zefatcheese (Post 15096412)
Americans have to visit Israel and demand Israeli-style security, not the jack-boot Mickey Mouse pantomime nonsense we have in the US.

TLV style security is not scalable.




Originally Posted by LV702 (Post 15095148)
SO they work, but they break down....

How about fix the bugs?!?!?!!?!?

The TSA failed in the acquisition contracts and not testing them in the actual environment they would be used in. They are a perfect alternative to the Nude-O-Scopes and Genital Gropes, however people like Michael Chertoff and Tom Blank do not have a financial interest in the deployment of Explosive Trace Portals.

zefatcheese Nov 8, 2010 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by N965VJ (Post 15097547)
TLV style security is not scalable.





The TSA failed in the acquisition contracts and not testing them in the actual environment they would be used in. They are a perfect alternative to the Nude-O-Scopes and Genital Gropes, however people like Michael Chertoff and Tom Blank do not have a financial interest in the deployment of Explosive Trace Portals.

WHAT IS THE WALL? HAVE YOU BEEN TO ISRAEL?

HOW MANY SUICIDE BOMBERS WE HAVE NOW GOING OFF? I SEE FEWER GUNS AT THE KOTEL THAN AT THE SUBWAY IN MANHATTAN!!! Scalable??? You nuts? Of course it is!

The US CAN have Israeli security at the airports, but THERE IS NO LEADERSHIP -- NONE -- and the government is crushing the people.

It's also halachicly incorrect to do this to people. Some rabbis condone it, but they are TOTALLY wrong... those same rabbis probably condoned Jim Crow, too.. aie-yah.

oenophilist Nov 18, 2010 6:36 am

I would like to formally apologize to all of those critics on this thread... based on the actions of this month and the attitude of the TSA employees on this board to the groping, in addition to the attitude of the TSA leadership, I would like to officially change my position on this. The TSA needs to go.
:mad:

Al Coholic Nov 18, 2010 7:05 am

Nothing. Let airlines handle it. I, for one, would be happy to buy a ticket on one that does not search passengers and allows concealed weapons on board. Time for Archie Bunker solution.

sbagdon Nov 18, 2010 10:52 am


Originally Posted by Al Coholic (Post 15185880)
Nothing. Let airlines handle it. I, for one, would be happy to buy a ticket on one that does not search passengers and allows concealed weapons on board. Time for Archie Bunker solution.

Don't remember the exact line, yet how many of us remember the scene?

"Get in here, before this endangered species becomes extinct".

OldGoat Nov 18, 2010 11:19 am

Here's an answer to the OP's question: http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/strip...sk-management/


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