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PhoenixRev Nov 6, 2010 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by TSORon (Post 15087239)
Prohibition against passengers taking box cutters. Next?

Because we all know if box cutters had not been used, the whole 9/11 plot would have crumbled and fallen apart. :rolleyes:

GUWonder Nov 6, 2010 12:49 pm


Originally Posted by TSORon (Post 15087239)
Prohibition against passengers taking box cutters. Next?

That doesn't require having a very expensive army of "security" screeners living off the federal government's taxpayer-funded workfare workfarce program.

N965VJ Nov 6, 2010 1:34 pm

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Originally Posted by LV702
Speaking of technology didn't the puffer machines WORK? (I know they broke down) Wouldn't it make more sense to work the bugs out?

Yes, and they are successfully being used in other venues such as the CN Tower in YYZ.

N830MH Nov 6, 2010 5:56 pm


Originally Posted by LV702 (Post 15087095)
Speaking of technology didn't the puffer machines WORK? (I know they broke down) Wouldn't it make more sense to work the bugs out?

Because TSA is removed all Explosives Trace Portal out of checkpoints. So that's why I didn't see it. TSA doesn't usually the ETP very often. Those passengers who likely to get through WTMD is better way to do it.

richard Nov 7, 2010 9:53 am

the general public loves the TSA. They think this "security" is great.

The general public are horses buttz.

The airlines ought to be solely responsible for security, so the public can decide which airline to patronize and the passenger can make that decision based upon whatever he or she feels is most important.

The markets work for everything, not the way everyone wants them to, but in the best way as in the place where WILLING customers contract with WILLING suppliers, rather than coercion and compulsion as it is today.

vc8 Nov 7, 2010 6:30 pm


Second, each plane should have a dual-key activated defensive system to knock out people in the main cabin (via oxygen decreasing or some chemical agent or some other solution) which requires both pilot and the relevant authority on the ground (military? FBI?) to activate.
Absolutley not. First, remember that something designed to knock out an adult can kill a small child or baby.

Second, even with a double key system, there is still a chance of the wrong people getting their hands on the system, and I'm not talking about the bad guys either **cough ** tsa **cough**

JoeBas Nov 7, 2010 7:02 pm


Originally Posted by vc8 (Post 15094594)
Absolutley not. First, remember that something designed to knock out an adult can kill a small child or baby.

Second, even with a double key system, there is still a chance of the wrong people getting their hands on the system, and I'm not talking about the bad guys either **cough ** tsa **cough**

With all the jets they scramble because some Okie from Muskogie is flying with someone who's *(looks around conspiratorially and whispers)* "Brown" for the first time, and he gets up to use the lav one time too many, I'm not sure I would want knockout gas on board either.

After all, there's no such thing as a OVERabundance of caution...

GuyverII Nov 7, 2010 7:09 pm

After running the TSA gauntlet in BWI, ORD, and LAX the past week, I am now convinced it is nothing more than a government-run jobs creation program. There must have been twenty TSA people standing around at BWI and LAX. I was greeted by the BWI ID-checker with "yo mister let me see them documents" and in ORD two of the employees were flirting while they scanned items--one said to the other "You got one fine body" right in front of the other passengers. Completely unprofessional.

Just wonderful.

Boggie Dog Nov 7, 2010 7:11 pm


Originally Posted by GuyverII (Post 15094797)
After running the TSA gauntlet in BWI, ORD, and LAX the past week, I am now convinced it is nothing more than a government-run jobs creation program. There must have been twenty TSA people standing around at BWI and LAX. I was greeted by the BWI ID-checker with "yo mister let me see them documents" and in ORD two of the employees were flirting while they scanned items--one said to the other "You got one fine body" right in front of the other passengers. Completely unprofessional.

Just wonderful.


Completely unprofessional:TSA Job #!

Global_Hi_Flyer Nov 7, 2010 7:21 pm


Originally Posted by GuyverII (Post 15094797)
-one said to the other "You got one fine body" right in front of the other passengers. Completely unprofessional.

Just wonderful.

Just think of what he's saying as they run passengers through the strip-search machine.

DevilDog438 Nov 7, 2010 7:42 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 15094807)
Completely unprofessional:TSA Job #!

Remember - "You don't professionalize, until you federalize."

Boggie Dog Nov 7, 2010 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by DevilDog438 (Post 15094940)
Remember - "You don't professionalize, until you federalize."

I'm surprised that Fox hasn't ressurected "Married....with Children and made Al Bundy a modern day TSA employee.

LV702 Nov 7, 2010 8:33 pm


Originally Posted by N965VJ (Post 15087700)
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Yes, and they are successfully being used in other venues such as the CN Tower in YYZ.


SO they work, but they break down....

How about fix the bugs?!?!?!!?!? Hell combine it with a WTMD machine.

muji Nov 7, 2010 9:47 pm


Originally Posted by gj83 (Post 15052437)
Millions of people get on buses, trains, and subways every day in the US with no screening.

Very good point.

LV702 Nov 7, 2010 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 15095026)
I'm surprised that Fox hasn't ressurected "Married....with Children and made Al Bundy a modern day TSA employee.

:td::td::td::td::td::td::td:

Al Bundy would never lower himself to working there. He'd rather sleep with Peggy.


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