I think you've just stumbled upon a whole new market for the adult industry! :cool:

perhaps in addition to the general Vogons on duty at the checkpoint, we should start referring to the grapers as 'fluffers'...

With the non-growth in the economy and the end of 99 weeks hitting for many, there is a continuous supply to reload the bottom-of-the-barrel.

Silly. As the TSA 2-striper at IAD said to a passenger in front of me "You have no rights at the checkpoint, especially first amendment rights. I will call a cop to detain you to make sure you miss your flight".

I know that tactic. I really wanted to hear from our TSO, what his local management was going to use as a justification for violating 1st Amendment rights and disallowing access to the airside terminal based on protected speech utterances on the passenger's part.

Which will undoubtedly cause the TSA to remove the ability to opt-out, making the strip-search machine mandatory.

I really torn about the best approach.

I fly out of BWI and have been subjected to the full "cupping the balls" search several times now. I find it abhorrent, and consider it unconstitutional.

But not once have I encountered a person that did the "ball cupping" where I considered them to be personally blame-worthy. They were "just following orders". While they should know what they are doing is deeply wrong, they will lose their job if they participate in the new searches. They all looked as if they would have difficulty finding other employment, and at least had a facade of being apologetic that they needed to do a groping search.

I'm guessing that will change in a few months, when the TSA bullying that I typically encounter (and freshly encounter when I insist on going through the magnetometer instead of the mm-x-ray tube on the way to my grope) extends to the full body search.

It seems as if TSA's mission is not about security (was it ever?:rolleyes:) but has become what new twisted, bizarre, sick, ways it comes up with to enrage people to the point where it appears to be heading, that is as some have already agreed with, some day at some screening checkpoint, a smurf/clerk is going to get fed their tin badge and/or testicles with a right cross to the jaw AND I would say when it happens it probably wont be from a frequent flyer, but from one of the kettles who witnesses his wife/daughter/son/sister/mother/grandmother getting molested from a smurf who is "just following orders".

Thats right, take away the ability to opt-out, make the nude-o-scope manditory along with the sexual molestation that probably comes with going thru the nude-o-scope anyways. Way to go TSA, fueling hatred of your agency and ruining the transportation industry all at the same time:mad:

With all due respect, I would suggest that it's high time we started making it personal and holding each & every screener we encounter during a groping session personally accountable for their actions -- regardless of their individual economic stratus. They made a voluntary employment decision and get up every morning to participate in all of this. We simply can't cut any slack to anyone earning a DHS paycheck at any level of the organization. Heck, I was an ROTC student in college during Viet Nam. I know all about being a symbol. I have no problem identifying any screener as a symbol.

And, I suggest, we have to break the habit of writing "pat-down" and "professional" in the same sentence.

The longer we sugar-coat this garbage, the easier it becomes for us to roll over and accept it.

I was raped when I was younger.

So to me this is rape. All because it is done by a stranger that I havent said or will ever say yes to.

If TSA pushes the issue with me. I will not let them do it volentary.

I will probably get sick.

Just remember if they do call for a Law enforcement officer and file a criminal complaint. Also if you want look for the statues in your state for sexual assault, and when you make your complaint read it verbatim as well as the description of what happened.

I dont have any travel for now, but next time i fly I will be well prepared and one nanometer over the line that clerk is going to sorely regret doing so even if means missing my flight. I have copies of the Texas Penal code and have memorized it for when i need it.

TSA thinks we are all the enemy and sheep for the slaughter, what they dont realize is that they are sorely mistaken and the tide is turning. There are persons prepared to make a stand to stop them on many fronts.

Never made a complaint. It was back in 1973 and someone I knew and had gone out with.

The LEO sees the disturbance being created by the passenger and steps in to keep the peace and or remove the pax if screening cant continue.

I dont believe that would happen. After the first punch is thrown, the passenger would be swarmed.

That is actually a really good point, I had not thought of that -- but it must be immensely traumatizing for a sex-assult-surviver to be forced to either a grope or an X-rated performance...

Presumably, to be on hand to take the sexual assault complaint....?

Indeed, this is very good news.

It's only escalating because TSA is overstepping. It's finally reached the point where people are pushing back, and they will continue to push back, harder & harder.

If you're uncomfortable with what's coming, you have the option of seeking employment with a more respectable organization.

On another front, a woman who'd been on my flight ran to catch up with me as we were going down the escalators in STL terminal #2 -- she wanted one of my Nude-O-Scope brocheres. :) People want the truth that they're not getting from TSA's Propaganda Village.