Foreigners going home and refusing....
#31
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 92
Color me skeptical as well. Having traveled Asia, Europe, and North America, the US has the least logical, most invasive, and slowest border checks I've encountered.
#32
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Back in YYZ after 3 years of expat life in LHR
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#34
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,444
Ill chime in to say that traveling extensively through Europe I have never:
- waited in line for more than 5 min
- been asked for ID at security checkpoints
- been barked at
- removed my shoes
- been scolded for holding onto passport and boarding pass while going through WTMD
- been put on a SSSS list and constantly wanded, patted, and had belongings searched. (I was wanded once in Europe, and that was because my new shoes,which I got to keep on, unknowingly to me had metal in them and set off the detector.)
- been asked to lift my shirt and show the insides of my waistband
- had snowglobes under 100ml and in baggies apprehended
All of the above have happened to me in the US.
- waited in line for more than 5 min
- been asked for ID at security checkpoints
- been barked at
- removed my shoes
- been scolded for holding onto passport and boarding pass while going through WTMD
- been put on a SSSS list and constantly wanded, patted, and had belongings searched. (I was wanded once in Europe, and that was because my new shoes,which I got to keep on, unknowingly to me had metal in them and set off the detector.)
- been asked to lift my shirt and show the insides of my waistband
- had snowglobes under 100ml and in baggies apprehended
All of the above have happened to me in the US.
#35
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 5,051
The Immigration/Customs guys come along, take them into a dark room with a single lightbulb, question them for several hours, grope them anyway, and finally escort them directly onboard a one-way international flight as prisoners (that bypass TSA screening).
Either way, they'll get a grope. It's a matter of whether they'd prefer having it done in a big open area with plenty of company, or in a small back office.
Either way, they'll get a grope. It's a matter of whether they'd prefer having it done in a big open area with plenty of company, or in a small back office.
#36

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,964
Many of us would be curious to have you explain this and provide some facts for us so that we can be prepared at these certain 'more intrusive than TSA' airports in Europe.
Thank you in advance for providing us on that other thread (and now this thread) with those facts. I am also curious as to how often you travel as a passenger outside the US, as well as through US airports as a passenger. Again, thank you in advance for providing that factual information.
#37
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: California. USA
Posts: 1,404
To remind you that is totally WRONG.
Being swedish, having swedish family and friends in Sweden and in Europe. None of us have never had intrusive searches. Never been threatend to have one.
So Europeans are not used to them. They are not excisting there like in USA.
And in fact if security gets something very suspisious. That person will be asked read ASKED into a seperate room with the same sex security guard.
No intrusive search will be done in public or private.
Most likely a person will be aksed to remove their clothes if it is very suspisious.Not groped.
and this is from friends in security.
#38
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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And me too. The assertion is ridiculous -- I have never had anything close to what is routine in the USA and Canada.
#39
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 98
I can image what happens if tourist board his/her flight time one hour before his I-94 expired. when he refuse scan and grope, TSA might call police and police might detain and arrest him ( though it does not have legal ground, but you never know it could happen). After legal proceeding( guilty, not guilty, imprisonment ), he will be transferred to CBP for deportation proceeding because of expired immigration status.He might end up in immigration detention during the proceeding. of course, he can hire lawyer to speed up processing. TSA might call immigration because of noticing he does not have visa on your passport ( even he does not need one ). Then immigration will take over to begin the deportation proceeding mentioned above. or tsa does not call police or immigration and just refuse him to enter boarding area, he can just surrender himself to immigration and begin deportation proceeding. I do not think deportation proceeding will finish one day unless you volunteering departure in this case no possible. maybe, cpb grant him extension of stay and let him to deal tsa himself.

