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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 11:35 pm
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Originally Posted by TamCaP
I know it's highly off-topic, but would you care to elaborate? As an eu passport holder my usual border check on most European borders takes between 5 and 15 seconds (honestly!!!, add odd 5m for wait times).
Color me skeptical as well. Having traveled Asia, Europe, and North America, the US has the least logical, most invasive, and slowest border checks I've encountered.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 11:47 pm
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Originally Posted by wutdhec
Color me skeptical as well. Having traveled Asia, Europe, and North America, the US has the least logical, most invasive, and slowest border checks I've encountered.
+1 That's why this tourist is no longer a tourist in the US ... Europe is getting my $$ now.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 12:13 am
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Euro security is far less intrusive, far more professional and I'm sure, without a doubt, far more effective.

US security is theater, and bad theater at that.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 3:23 am
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Ill chime in to say that traveling extensively through Europe I have never:

- waited in line for more than 5 min
- been asked for ID at security checkpoints
- been barked at
- removed my shoes
- been scolded for holding onto passport and boarding pass while going through WTMD
- been put on a SSSS list and constantly wanded, patted, and had belongings searched. (I was wanded once in Europe, and that was because my new shoes,which I got to keep on, unknowingly to me had metal in them and set off the detector.)
- been asked to lift my shirt and show the insides of my waistband
- had snowglobes under 100ml and in baggies apprehended

All of the above have happened to me in the US.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 4:11 am
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Originally Posted by Batmanuel
The Immigration/Customs guys come along, take them into a dark room with a single lightbulb, question them for several hours, grope them anyway, and finally escort them directly onboard a one-way international flight as prisoners (that bypass TSA screening).

Either way, they'll get a grope. It's a matter of whether they'd prefer having it done in a big open area with plenty of company, or in a small back office.
I'm really enjoying this thread. Not often you get one this much fun.^
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 5:02 am
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Originally Posted by eyecue
Europeans are used to this and more intrusive searches. I had one the other day that told me so.
I don't believe that you have returned to another thread to address this where many of us have questioned your assertion that 'Europeans' have more intrusive searches.

Many of us would be curious to have you explain this and provide some facts for us so that we can be prepared at these certain 'more intrusive than TSA' airports in Europe.

Thank you in advance for providing us on that other thread (and now this thread) with those facts. I am also curious as to how often you travel as a passenger outside the US, as well as through US airports as a passenger. Again, thank you in advance for providing that factual information.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by eyecue
Europeans are used to this and more intrusive searches. I had one the other day that told me so.
We have discussed this on another thread.

To remind you that is totally WRONG.

Being swedish, having swedish family and friends in Sweden and in Europe. None of us have never had intrusive searches. Never been threatend to have one.
So Europeans are not used to them. They are not excisting there like in USA.

And in fact if security gets something very suspisious. That person will be asked read ASKED into a seperate room with the same sex security guard.

No intrusive search will be done in public or private.
Most likely a person will be aksed to remove their clothes if it is very suspisious.Not groped.

and this is from friends in security.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by wutdhec
Color me skeptical as well. Having traveled Asia, Europe, and North America, the US has the least logical, most invasive, and slowest border checks I've encountered.
And me too. The assertion is ridiculous -- I have never had anything close to what is routine in the USA and Canada.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 9:08 pm
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I can image what happens if tourist board his/her flight time one hour before his I-94 expired. when he refuse scan and grope, TSA might call police and police might detain and arrest him ( though it does not have legal ground, but you never know it could happen). After legal proceeding( guilty, not guilty, imprisonment ), he will be transferred to CBP for deportation proceeding because of expired immigration status.He might end up in immigration detention during the proceeding. of course, he can hire lawyer to speed up processing. TSA might call immigration because of noticing he does not have visa on your passport ( even he does not need one ). Then immigration will take over to begin the deportation proceeding mentioned above. or tsa does not call police or immigration and just refuse him to enter boarding area, he can just surrender himself to immigration and begin deportation proceeding. I do not think deportation proceeding will finish one day unless you volunteering departure in this case no possible. maybe, cpb grant him extension of stay and let him to deal tsa himself.
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