Question for TSO's
Sep 23, 2010 | 12:38 pm
#2
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I advised a TSO recently of one of my sensitive areas and they insisted that they still had to pat it down, and in fact 'patted' so hard that I almost fell over. It took more than a day for the pain to subside to a manageable level.
I have a complaint form, and the supervisor who was standing there witnessing the 'pat down' was extremely sympathetic and in fact did order the TSO to stop.
I have a complaint form, and the supervisor who was standing there witnessing the 'pat down' was extremely sympathetic and in fact did order the TSO to stop.
Sep 23, 2010 | 1:00 pm
#3
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I advised a TSO recently of one of my sensitive areas and they insisted that they still had to pat it down, and in fact 'patted' so hard that I almost fell over. It took more than a day for the pain to subside to a manageable level.
I have a complaint form, and the supervisor who was standing there witnessing the 'pat down' was extremely sympathetic and in fact did order the TSO to stop.
I have a complaint form, and the supervisor who was standing there witnessing the 'pat down' was extremely sympathetic and in fact did order the TSO to stop.
That part I dont understand at all.
What can you hide on your bare skin?
And what if they cause harm to your sensitive area?
Like cause bleeding , pain or brusing?
Sep 23, 2010 | 2:23 pm
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Sep 23, 2010 | 2:48 pm
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Being a former medic in the US Army, I've stuck with my belief of "Do not cause further injury to the patient." Then comes the TSA mindset of "All areas must be screened." It's a difficult balance. I just try to utilize every resource I have to ensure that the passenger does not pose a threat without causing any more pain (minus the inconvenience). It may result in a slightly longer screening process, but I think I satisfy TSA's requirements while reducing the possibility of inflicting any more physical pain. I can't stop the mental anguish of being at a TSA checkpoint, though. 
Sep 23, 2010 | 3:55 pm
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Did they feel stupid doing that?
What do they think that you hide beneath bare skin ?
They actually make me really scared of flying. Cause if they are that stupid then I am REALLY concerned and worried about if they really get that bad guy?
And what they would do if they get one.
What do they think that you hide beneath bare skin ?
They actually make me really scared of flying. Cause if they are that stupid then I am REALLY concerned and worried about if they really get that bad guy?
And what they would do if they get one.
Sep 23, 2010 | 3:58 pm
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Did they feel stupid doing that?
What do they think that you hide beneath bare skin ?
They actually make me really scared of flying. Cause if they are that stupid then I am REALLY concerned and worried about if they really get that bad guy?
And what they would do if they get one.
What do they think that you hide beneath bare skin ?
They actually make me really scared of flying. Cause if they are that stupid then I am REALLY concerned and worried about if they really get that bad guy?
And what they would do if they get one.
Sep 23, 2010 | 3:59 pm
#10
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Being a former medic in the US Army, I've stuck with my belief of "Do not cause further injury to the patient." Then comes the TSA mindset of "All areas must be screened." It's a difficult balance. I just try to utilize every resource I have to ensure that the passenger does not pose a threat without causing any more pain (minus the inconvenience). It may result in a slightly longer screening process, but I think I satisfy TSA's requirements while reducing the possibility of inflicting any more physical pain. I can't stop the mental anguish of being at a TSA checkpoint, though.
So I guess the next step is cavity search on everybody.
It is insane.
Self protection.
Last edited by Kiwi Flyer; Sep 24, 2010 at 12:51 am Reason: merge consecutive posts
Sep 23, 2010 | 5:46 pm
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TSASuper pretty much hit the nail on the head. We have to screen the person, however I was trained in a similar way to them. If a person has a sensitive area, we clear it and take great care to not press down and do more damage, just enough pressure to ascertain what is there. One added benefit of AIT if you are flying is they can clear most situations of this nature without touching in some cases (mind you not all situations can be cleared that way, but many of them can). I would just make certain to tell the TSO that the area is extremely sensitive and if they are rough, go to a Supe immediately, and follow up through the official channels as well. I hope you have as good of an experience as possible.
Sep 23, 2010 | 5:51 pm
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TSASuper pretty much hit the nail on the head. We have to screen the person, however I was trained in a similar way to them. If a person has a sensitive area, we clear it and take great care to not press down and do more damage, just enough pressure to ascertain what is there. One added benefit of AIT if you are flying is they can clear most situations of this nature without touching in some cases (mind you not all situations can be cleared that way, but many of them can). I would just make certain to tell the TSO that the area is extremely sensitive and if they are rough, go to a Supe immediately, and follow up through the official channels as well. I hope you have as good of an experience as possible.
Your apparent (& disgusting!) logic is totally backwards. A year ago you never would have gotten away with stripsearching people, yet now that you have the ability to do so electronically, somehow in your contorted reasoning that allows & requires you to perform invasive searches n lieu of an electronic stripsearch, when your authority to perform an administrative stripsearch has never existed in the first place?
We live in a free country and will continue to live in a free country. The sooner your loathsome organization is shut down, the better.
Last edited by MikeMpls; Sep 23, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Sep 23, 2010 | 5:58 pm
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TSASuper pretty much hit the nail on the head. We have to screen the person, however I was trained in a similar way to them. If a person has a sensitive area, we clear it and take great care to not press down and do more damage, just enough pressure to ascertain what is there. One added benefit of AIT if you are flying is they can clear most situations of this nature without touching in some cases (mind you not all situations can be cleared that way, but many of them can). I would just make certain to tell the TSO that the area is extremely sensitive and if they are rough, go to a Supe immediately, and follow up through the official channels as well. I hope you have as good of an experience as possible.
Sep 23, 2010 | 6:10 pm
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