For what you wrote, that's all you deserve. If you have something with a but more weight to say, please do.

Since we are discussing "pat-downs" when does a TSA "pat-down" become a "partial" and then a "full-strip" search?
Is there any documentation completed for any of the above searches and if so what are the TSA form numbers?

I believe my comment opens up a very good area for discussion, how much security is enough?

Many things TSA is doing today is from unsuccessful attempts or attempts that were only in the planning stages, the shoe bomb and British Liquid Bomb planners.

I offer a known attempt that while not killing the intended target was a successful deployment of a weapon but TSA seems unconcerned about this and does no screening to intercept this type of weapon.

Now if you consider that this area of discussion has no weight then I guess I will just have to accept that security is really not TSA's objective.

This is SOP at FRA. They like to get fresh. Unfortunately the last screener wasn't my type.

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And as confirmed by a TSO on another thread (and by female posters) women wearing skirts and dresses are often subjected to wanding between the legs in the US.

I have had 'intimate' searches in other countries but they were respectful and professional, and did not involve someone trying to have me lift my skirt in order to place a wand between my legs.

They're just looking for detonator tampons.

which will never be found by TSA's Child Porn Viewers!

Hmmm, so in my time as a Aif Force Security Policeman (13 years), since no armed attack was ever mounted on one of our secure areas, then we should never have been armed? Interesting uhhh... logic there Wally.

Ah, never mind.

Okay, I just sprayed coffee all over my computer monitor!!!

This was the way we were taught to do pat downs when I worked for the prison system several years ago. So the TSA fellow probably had some LEO/CO experience.

I find it disgusting that law-abiding citizens are searched like convicted criminals just because they want to travel.

Is there a prescribed belly patdown as well?

I got one the last time I was through BOS. Did not set off the WTMD, but the TSO officer just had me raise my arms while he patted my stomach and sides. Didn't go below the waist or above the sternum. Seemed sort of strange, guess I'm abnormally fat in the midsection.

It's worse than disgusting.

You, I, and everyone else knows that >99% of airline passengers do not need to be screened at all. The government has failed to devise an effective method of identifying the <1% who do, so has simply passed that failure on to the traveling public.

Maybe it's not possible to identify those 'threats', but what ought to be possible is to drum into the thick heads of screeners, supervisors and managers that >99% of the time they are NOT dealing with a terrorist or criminal and should treat people accordingly.

Immediately following 9/11 there was a groundswell of support for improved screening (despite 9/11 NOT being a screening failure). A calm, rational approach could have built a co-operative atmosphere and a workable compromise between security and convenience. Instead of which the TSA took a confrontational approach from day 1 - remember breast milk, pond water, bookmarks, CMH ! - and has bolstered that outlook ever since. Beyond redemption now .

Got that this am at PWM, I for the record am not fat, and quite in shape.

So, this whole waistband thing. What if one isn't wearing any underwear? I'd think that'd be a bit too personal at that point.
Do I warn them?
What if I set the metal detector off because of an "attachment" down under?