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More than 30 privacy and civil liberties groups are asking the Department of Homeland Security to suspend the use of full body imagers at airports, saying there is evidence that privacy safeguards don't work and the devices are not effective.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/04/21...iref=allsearchMore than 30 privacy and civil liberties groups are asking the Department of Homeland Security to suspend the use of full body imagers at airports, saying there is evidence that privacy safeguards don't work and the devices are not effective.
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Those are some heavy hitters. It’s starting to look like the TSA is going to find the same type of organized opposition like they did with the LASP boondoggle.Originally Posted by CNN.com
The organizations signing the petition include EPIC, AALDEF, BORDC, the Council on Islamic-American Relations, the Center for the Study of Responsive Law, the Liberty Coalition and Public Citizen.
"Rotenberg said the groups may seek legal action if the DHS does not act on the petition."
It's time this nation stopped asking and instead told DHS to stop this and other disgusting, un-American crap.
It's time this nation stopped asking and instead told DHS to stop this and other disgusting, un-American crap.
I suggest everyone refuse WBI screening until DHS/TSA release actual images of a screened person.
To date DHS/TSA have refused to respond to request for full size/full resolution images.
The public has the right to know exactly what is being asked of them.
Why would anyone agree to this screening when you have no idea just what the screeners are really seeing?
Just Say No to TSA Whole Body "Strip Search" Imagers.
To date DHS/TSA have refused to respond to request for full size/full resolution images.
The public has the right to know exactly what is being asked of them.
Why would anyone agree to this screening when you have no idea just what the screeners are really seeing?
Just Say No to TSA Whole Body "Strip Search" Imagers.
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It's time this nation stopped asking and instead told DHS to stop this and other disgusting, un-American crap.
Yeah, right!!!!!!!!!!!! It will have to stopped using the body-scanners. IT will eventually to be removed off the checkpoint.Originally Posted by Spiff
"Rotenberg said the groups may seek legal action if the DHS does not act on the petition."It's time this nation stopped asking and instead told DHS to stop this and other disgusting, un-American crap.
Because no one ever to entry into the body-scanners.
As usual, the CNN comments section of the article is going to be a sh*tstorm of the opposed and the supportive alike.
*preps fingers for intense typing fest*
*preps fingers for intense typing fest*
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Right!!!!!!!! No more body scanners at US Airports. Its time to get rid all of the body scanners will be out of security checkpoint.Originally Posted by VonS
It's about time! Grateful to see that someone is finally doing something to protect the flying public from this unAmerican invasion of privacy.
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Originally Posted by Travelsonic
As usual, the CNN comments section of the article is going to be a storm of the opposed and the supportive alike.
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Originally Posted by fastjr
I hope that all airports have these machines installed. In Russia they have been in use for some time and no one has complained. They are great and do help passengers feel safe for the work they do.
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That would be the day!!!!Originally Posted by N830MH
Right!!!!!!!! No more body scanners at US Airports. Its time to get rid all of the body scanners will be out of security checkpoint.
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The article states a number of weapons have already been found - well worth it then! If you don't want to go through these machines then opt for the strip search, don't want that either? then don't fly!
The article states a number of weapons have already been found - well worth it then! If you don't want to go through these machines then opt for the strip search, don't want that either? then don't fly!
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I hope that all airports have these machines installed. In Russia they have been in use for some time and no one has complained. They are great and do help passengers feel safe for the work they do.
I hope that all airports have these machines installed. In Russia they have been in use for some time and no one has complained. They are great and do help passengers feel safe for the work they do.
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wow how sad....9/11 alone should make you want to protect yourself and those you love.. you must not have known someone who died that day.. I DO.. and wish they had they a long time ago.. maybe a few hundred people would still be walking around today... and not buried 6 feet under.. if you don't like the security measures find another way to travel....... pretty simple to me.. it is a CHOICE to fly.. you could always take a train/car/bike/foot... no one is forcing you to get on a plane...
wow how sad....9/11 alone should make you want to protect yourself and those you love.. you must not have known someone who died that day.. I DO.. and wish they had they a long time ago.. maybe a few hundred people would still be walking around today... and not buried 6 feet under.. if you don't like the security measures find another way to travel....... pretty simple to me.. it is a CHOICE to fly.. you could always take a train/car/bike/foot... no one is forcing you to get on a plane...
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To hell with these groups. Use the imagers.
To hell with these groups. Use the imagers.
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This is for you dimwits who are against it. Think about the next time you fly with your children or a loved one. Look at those individuals and tell them that you don't care about putting their safety in danger as long as you have your rights. Wouldn't you do anything in the world to protect them? This is a small price to pay.
This is for you dimwits who are against it. Think about the next time you fly with your children or a loved one. Look at those individuals and tell them that you don't care about putting their safety in danger as long as you have your rights. Wouldn't you do anything in the world to protect them? This is a small price to pay.
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If everyone can't be trusted, then no one should be trusted. I have no problem with these things. In order to protect everyone then a little privacy needs to be given up. The more technology you can put in between a potential terrorist and a plane, the better.
If everyone can't be trusted, then no one should be trusted. I have no problem with these things. In order to protect everyone then a little privacy needs to be given up. The more technology you can put in between a potential terrorist and a plane, the better.
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One response to myresponse:Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
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What do you have to hide?
My response:What do you have to hide?
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None of your business.
None of your business.
Fox News had a segment on this today in which they had both a former member of TSA’s management (Pro) and an EPIC representative (Con). The discussion was quite interesting. The EPIC rep claimed to have 600+ complaints from the public at their web site that they got from an FOIA request, but I was only able to find 7. There may be more, I didn’t do an in-depth search for them.
The former TSA management member made a very good point though. TSA screens more than 2 million passengers every day, and that EPIC only has 600 written complaints from what looks like about a year. I know we have some self proclaimed math majors here, what percentage does that come out to?
The former TSA management member made a very good point though. TSA screens more than 2 million passengers every day, and that EPIC only has 600 written complaints from what looks like about a year. I know we have some self proclaimed math majors here, what percentage does that come out to?
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The former TSA management member made a very good point though. TSA screens more than 2 million passengers every day, and that EPIC only has 600 written complaints from what looks like about a year. I know we have some self proclaimed math majors here, what percentage does that come out to?
While talking math, TSA has been operating since 2002, screening 2 million passengers per day. How many terrorist has TSA identified and later have been charged and found guilty in a court of law?Originally Posted by TSORon
Fox News had a segment on this today in which they had both a former member of TSAs management (Pro) and an EPIC representative (Con). The discussion was quite interesting. The EPIC rep claimed to have 600+ complaints from the public at their web site that they got from an FOIA request, but I was only able to find 7. There may be more, I didnt do an in-depth search for them.The former TSA management member made a very good point though. TSA screens more than 2 million passengers every day, and that EPIC only has 600 written complaints from what looks like about a year. I know we have some self proclaimed math majors here, what percentage does that come out to?
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The former TSA management member made a very good point though. TSA screens more than 2 million passengers every day, and that EPIC only has 600 written complaints from what looks like about a year. I know we have some self proclaimed math majors here, what percentage does that come out to?
well how many of them where round-filed? I know of many written and emailed complaints (easy ball park of around 200 in the past year, and a good percentage on the porno-vision) that have gone with out a response.Originally Posted by TSORon
Fox News had a segment on this today in which they had both a former member of TSAs management (Pro) and an EPIC representative (Con). The discussion was quite interesting. The EPIC rep claimed to have 600+ complaints from the public at their web site that they got from an FOIA request, but I was only able to find 7. There may be more, I didnt do an in-depth search for them.The former TSA management member made a very good point though. TSA screens more than 2 million passengers every day, and that EPIC only has 600 written complaints from what looks like about a year. I know we have some self proclaimed math majors here, what percentage does that come out to?