Going through TSA checkpoint at DFW terminal C today and handed the ID checker my Texas CHL she promptly informed me that Texas CHLs are no longer excepted as a form of ID. (Just to clarify my CHL meets ALL the requirements for REAL ID and is issued by the TX DPS.)

I asked why and her response was "too many people are making fake ones" I asked for a supervisor who reiterated what the smurf had said so I gave them my TX DL and asked why they couldn't tell the difference between real and fake IDs?

no response just asked to move along.

As I suspected the TSA can NOT tell the difference between a fake and a real ID.

Anyway I proceed through the WTMD and set it off but just keep walking over to my bags and start to collect my belongings. Normally I would stop and turn around but the smurf on duty looked to be asleep so I thought it would be funnier to wait by my bags and see how long it took her to say something(it was very slow no one else was behind me) The smurf was daydreaming and didn't realize I had triggered the WTMD until another smurf came over to "wake her up". Security at its finest.

From the TSA Acceptable Documents list:

I know that you mentioned this in your post, but just to reiterate:

Who issues drivers licenses in Texas - Department of Public Safety

Who issues CHL's in Texas - Department of Public Safety

Who doesn't follow their own regulations - TSA

Expect anything else from TSA?

They call themselves a highly trained professional agency.

Why?

TSA can tell the difference between a real and fake tribal Native American ID, though.

And, for the record, a CHL is neither a DL or an "identity card"; it is a CHL.

The reasoning in ORD for rejecting my FOID (during the period that the rules allowed it) was that "it is issued as a license to own guns whereas a DL is issued as an ID". When I pointed out that a DL is issued as a license to drive, not as an ID, he just looked dumbfounded.

I think you've got this one wrong.

Here is what TSA says: "Drivers Licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent) that meets REAL ID benchmarks (All states are currently in compliance)"

The Texas CHL is a permit to carry concealed weapons, yes. It is issued by the same agency as a Texas DL. It does identify the person and looks very similar to the DL. It is just as much an identity document as a DL is.

A plus for the CHL is that a background check is required to get one plus other requirements such as law and demonstration of ability to fire the weapon.

Guess a question could be sent to BB but I would not expect a rational answer if he answered at all.

When they say "state photo identity cards," they mean the specific cards that the state issues as an ID cards.

A CHL is just as much an identity document as a DL is, but it does not meet their definition of a state photo identity card.

It should be accepted, but it isn't; I believe they are following their policy in this case, however.

I have used my CHL for clearing TSA but that was a couple of years ago. Was curious if I would get a second look but the guy just pointed out some of the security features of the CHL to me.

Both have the same information on them. In fact the Texas CHL even has the DL# of the holder on the face.

Texas Department of Public Safety is the issuing agency for both.

Not trying to stir the pot but both documents are permits to do something. One to operate motor vehicles and the other to carry a concealed handgun. I truly do not see any difference as to the ID part of the discussion.

The persons photo, name, address, height, weight, DOB, Hair color, eye color and gender are on the CHL.

Both the DL and CHL meet Real ID requirements. Both have embedded security features.

Seems to me that the Texas CHL meets every requirement of an identity document as specified by TSA.

They say identity card, not identity document. I believe that one word changes the definition.

Perhaps I'm just dense but I do not see the difference.

We'll have to agree to diagree on this one; I believe it is a fair reading of the policy no matter how stupid it is.

Would you agree that neither the TX DL or TX CHL is an identity card but both are permits?

Yes; that's what makes the policy's distinction so stupid.

Yes, of course they do. I didn't like it for this way against TSA does not good for me at all. It should have to changeability the policy to bring it back normal way REAL ID Act. I am already have a real ID all of the times. It will be easing the regulations. Those passengers who have to right to get through at checkpoint is reductions 10 minutes wait time at security.

My retired military ID has been declared an unacceptable form of ID on three separate occasions by the smurfs. Why? Because it is not in the new digital format yet it is still valid ID at any military installation in the world and according to the ID card section at various military installations does not need to be replaced or updated.

It is my understand that all states are NOT in compliance with REAL ID and that is why Nappy has talked about something called PASS ID.