Wash your hands boys & girls!
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Great job TSA!^
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BTW: Here's something to try at home. Put a dab of Purell on a plate and light it! See how nicely it burns. And not only is it allowed through security, but you can easily procure gallons of it within the sterile area.
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The local Fox TV station news did an story on this tonight. Predictably, they had a TSA propaganda-meister talking about it, and a couple of surrender-monkeys saying "it makes us safer so I'm all for it". They also interviewed a UA FA who stated the case against (we'll see how long before TSA pressures UA to fire her).
That's a ray of hope if I've ever seen one. In the past, you could always count on flight crews to act like nervous nellies and say "anything for security," at least to the press. (If you knew them personally or talked to them in private, though, you'd often get a different story.)
I truly believe that if the airline unions or management were to rise up against TSA, we would see all of the abuses and silly rules come to a grinding halt. If TSA starts messing up boarding and operations (delaying passengers and flights for gate screening) or gets so intrusive as to drive down passenger traffic (perhaps the inevitable nudiscope incident of images posted online or a well publicized strip search incident), the airlines can bring a lot of pressure to bear. IMO it was the airlines that forced TSA to go to 3.4-1-1 instead of a total liquid ban, and the airlines have also been good at exempting their own employees from absurd requirements (shoe carnival, war on water).
Do you remember the key points of the FA's case against?
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If I took five minutes instead of just one minute I could probably come up with better materials (e.g. aluminized mylar balloon as a non-permeable barrier), a better process and a time-efficient way of checking the bounds. An actual bad guy can spend much longer -- so what are we protecting against again?
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(noted that you have imbedded the link in your post).
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Imagine that, a FA from UA countering the “anything to make us safer” sheeple.
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... had a lady checking my bag at LHR change here gloves before opening a case with my mouthpiece in it, without me asking her. Not sure if she was worried about me or herself (or both) but I was appreciative. She told me she used to get lots of eye infections before she started changing her gloves frequently. I never really thought about it before then.
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I posted on Bob's blog:
"There are at least a dozen important, valid questions so far on this thread and the only thing you respond to, Bob, is a ridiculous Twitter rumour about DNA that no one here has even mentioned.
Way to go after the low hanging fruit."
We'll see if it gets approved.
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If using a fresh swab on one hand gets a negative result, what purpose does it serve to use another fresh swab on your other hand? It won't be touching any other passenger between your hand and the ETD machine so that wipes out the cross contamination argument. Fresh gloves, no problem as long as you want to wait for me to put them on (ever try to put nitrile gloves on hands that are a little sweaty from wearing them all day?).
and based on advice from other tso's, i can if i so choose, request a fresh swab for both of my hands and additional fresh swabs for both of my shoes.
sorry to sound harsh but i am not a sheep and as long as i am within my rights, i will not simply bend over and take it
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... had a lady checking my bag at LHR change here gloves before opening a case with my mouthpiece in it, without me asking her. Not sure if she was worried about me or herself (or both) but I was appreciative. She told me she used to get lots of eye infections before she started changing her gloves frequently. I never really thought about it before then.
That was her own fault for the eye infections and the exact reasons why gloves should be changed for every person. Im very careful and have yet to get anything from any of my patients (including the nasty bugs like MRSA, VRE, MRDO, Acinetobacter)
At work once the gloves are on I wont even scratch an itch. Then depending on the scene I might be changing my gloves a few times on the same patient. Then if im dealing with multiple patients I change them between patients.
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I get my palms, the back of my hands (sometimes), shoes, cane handle (sometimes), and brace swabbed every time through security. Guess I'll be part of the multiple swab club now with my fellow orthopedic shoe terrorist. And yes, I always ask for a fresh trap.