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Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 13342943)
Try wearing these through the checkpoint. Tell them that they are orthopedic (sp) and you cant take them off. :D
BTW you spelled "orthopedic" correctly. I suck at spelling so I like using Firefox as it has a built in spell checker. |
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Well I am all bummed, my brother wants to trailer the van to me so they can see the baby. What is that saying about the best laid plans?
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Originally Posted by Trollkiller
(Post 13372310)
Well I am all bummed, my brother wants to trailer the van to me so they can see the baby. What is that saying about the best laid plans?
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Originally Posted by pmocek
(Post 13340569)
West, could you please elaborate on that? In particular, I'd like to know if in this context, your use of "provoke" includes illegal activity or activity likely to endanger other people, and if not, I'd like to know what sort of troubles you believe the likely outcome of such provocation would be.
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Originally Posted by Trollkiller
(Post 13372310)
Well I am all bummed, my brother wants to trailer the van to me so they can see the baby. What is that saying about the best laid plans?
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Given what just happened in Philadelphia, maybe you should make up some Arabic/English flash cards and flip through them while in line. See how many TSOs are slow learners.
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Originally Posted by gsoltso
(Post 13374011)
Some of the ideas I have seen posted here would result in LEO referrals, and possible arrest. I was merely indicating that having a little fun with the TSOs can quickly become an "oh sh**" minute with the wrong outcome. His intention is to poke some fun, and get a bit of a rise out of the TSOs that are there, not go to jail as a martyr. Some of the stuff (dressing like a woman, wearing the fun shirts, the cutout of the word gun, mundane things of that nature) will get a smirk from most of the TSOs, maybe even a laugh and a pic opportunity (and I want one of those cards dang it TK) and the encounter card. Some of the other things I have seen here, can generate tons of negative responses due to the fact that they are borderline interfering with screening, and some are just downright illegal (such as the annoy o trons, while funny, to the point of outright hilarity, it is still concealing an electronic device in the checkpoint area and would result in at least a bit of discussion with the LEOs). I like TK and don't want to see something he intended as a joke or social commentary to get him in a jail cell in front of his kids. Just my suggestion, take it for what you want to Phil.:D
I would hope that most here would think I would be smarter than to break any law. If they want to trump a charge they will have to stretch to get it. (helps having family in law enforcement) I did not take what you said as a chilling warning, I took it more as a be careful, have fun warning. |
Would my idea of a printout of the secret leaked screening procedure have gotten TK into that kind of legal touble?
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Originally Posted by gsoltso
(Post 13374011)
Some of the ideas I have seen posted here would result in LEO referrals, and possible arrest. I was merely indicating that having a little fun with the TSOs can quickly become an "oh sh**" minute with the wrong outcome. His intention is to poke some fun, and get a bit of a rise out of the TSOs that are there, not go to jail as a martyr. Some of the stuff (dressing like a woman, wearing the fun shirts, the cutout of the word gun, mundane things of that nature) will get a smirk from most of the TSOs, maybe even a laugh and a pic opportunity (and I want one of those cards dang it TK) and the encounter card. Some of the other things I have seen here, can generate tons of negative responses due to the fact that they are borderline interfering with screening, and some are just downright illegal (such as the annoy o trons, while funny, to the point of outright hilarity, it is still concealing an electronic device in the checkpoint area and would result in at least a bit of discussion with the LEOs).
I'm really trying to get at whether you think doing something perfectly legal is likely to have negative repurcussions, particularly negative repurcussions such as jail time. In your response, you mentioned "borderline interfering with screening" and suggested that such activity could "generate tons of negative responses". Could you be more specific about the negative responses that could come from something that does not constitute interference with screening? Also, you said that some of the suggestions here are for unlawful activity. Which ones? You started to present the annoy-o-trons idea as illegal, then you wrote that this is concelaing an electronic device (is that unlawful? I conceal about a dozen electronic devices every time I fly.), then you said it would result in at least a bit of discussion with law enforcement officers. If it's illegal, wouldn't it almost certainly result in arrest and charges of performing some illegal activity? |
Originally Posted by mikeef
(Post 13332171)
We've had a number of helpful TSOs post on this forum over the years.
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Originally Posted by Trollkiller
(Post 13375363)
If I got tossed in jail in front of my kids for jacking with the TSA they would just say "I told you so". Then after the initial jab they would rally behind me.
I would hope that most here would think I would be smarter than to break any law. If they want to trump a charge they will have to stretch to get it. (helps having family in law enforcement) I did not take what you said as a chilling warning, I took it more as a be careful, have fun warning. |
Originally Posted by Ayn R Key
(Post 13375411)
Would my idea of a printout of the secret leaked screening procedure have gotten TK into that kind of legal touble?
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Originally Posted by pmocek
(Post 13377818)
Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Dean in the past several months? I've not seen him post here or on the TSA blog for quite some time. I PM'd him here a couple weeks ago, but have received no response.
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Originally Posted by pmocek
(Post 13377781)
You didn't answer my questions. Could you please do so?
I'm really trying to get at whether you think doing something perfectly legal is likely to have negative repurcussions, particularly negative repurcussions such as jail time. In your response, you mentioned "borderline interfering with screening" and suggested that such activity could "generate tons of negative responses". Could you be more specific about the negative responses that could come from something that does not constitute interference with screening? Also, you said that some of the suggestions here are for unlawful activity. Which ones? You started to present the annoy-o-trons idea as illegal, then you wrote that this is concelaing an electronic device (is that unlawful? I conceal about a dozen electronic devices every time I fly.), then you said it would result in at least a bit of discussion with law enforcement officers. If it's illegal, wouldn't it almost certainly result in arrest and charges of performing some illegal activity? Anything that can hamper the ability of the TSOs to perform their duties in the normal manner can be considered interference with screening. I know that is kind of vague, but that is the only info I have found and can't comment on specifics (SSI). Creating a disturbance in the checkpoint area can result in LEO referral and jail time. Wearing a tshirt with a joking reference to the agency = freedom of speech no problem. Concealing illegal items of any kind on you, in your bag or any of your items brought with you = illegal and can result in jail time. Again, anything that has a LEO referral is out of TSAs hands and moves forward on the LEOs decisions. That should clear a lot of it up for you. |
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