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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 4:12 am
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This policy is basically an extension of the previous policy the TSA had in place for full secondary screenings for nationals of 12 nations at USA-based checkpoints. The main differences are that 2 countries are added (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan) and that the screenings will be happening at foreign gateways. Supposedly this new policy will require full ETD swabbing at the gate but it remains to be seen if that actually happens.

Oh, and it is still a violation of the TSA's civil rights policy. Awesome.

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/thewanderingaramean/2010/01/new-tsa-policy-a-violation-of-um-tsa-policy/
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 4:51 am
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part of the story I read reads in part "This list was developed between Homeland Security and the State Department using the latest intelligence, a senior federal official told NBC"
I don't think that word means what they think it means.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 4:56 am
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How in the world can the US regulate the security procedures carried out by foreign flagged carriers and security personnel employed abroad?
Well they can't. But what they can do is say - if you don't do this then no planes from your country are going to come to the US.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 6:02 am
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I hear that if Cuba refuses to implement these requirements then the uS is going to stop flights between Cuba & US and impose economic sanctions against Cuba
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 7:34 am
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Flying Continental back yesterday morning from Bonaire, NA - after a horrifically slow check-in process (okay, it's a tiny Caribbean airport, this isn't anything new), we arrived in the waiting area to find an enormous boarding line. It turns out that (as I understand it) they had started boarding the plane, then something tipped the captain/flight crew that the local security was not following new TSA policies to his satisfaction. They offloaded the plane and rescreened every passenger, including a hand search of carry-ons, full pat downs, and...no liquids permitted to be carried on, "not one gram". Not the bottle of water you bought in the airport snack bar, not your 3-1-1 liquids, not even (from what I saw in the pile of "contraband") your duty-free bottle of rum. Eventually they opened a second screening line at the other "gate" to speed things up a little, but overall it led to an hour delay before we took off. Luckily, CO's baggage crew at IAH double-timed it unloading the plane so that we could recheck our bags after customs and still make our connection, but overall a horrendous experience.

From what I'm reading here, this extra screening and no-liquid rule was not in line with the increased "security" being implemented at other airports. I don't know whether BON security staff overreact to the captain's complaints, or if the captain misunderstood or overdid it on the new rules, but (for once) maybe TSA isn't to blame for a security snafu...
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by treads0322
It turns out that (as I understand it) they had started boarding the plane, then something tipped the captain/flight crew that the local security was not following new TSA policies to his satisfaction. They offloaded the plane and rescreened every passenger, including a hand search of carry-ons, full pat downs, and...no liquids permitted to be carried on, "not one gram". Not the bottle of water you bought in the airport snack bar, not your 3-1-1 liquids, not even (from what I saw in the pile of "contraband") your duty-free bottle of rum.
Out of an Abundance Of Caution.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by sbm12
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This policy is basically an extension of the previous policy the TSA had in place for full secondary screenings for nationals of 12 nations at USA-based checkpoints. The main differences are that 2 countries are added (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan) and that the screenings will be happening at foreign gateways. Supposedly this new policy will require full ETD swabbing at the gate but it remains to be seen if that actually happens.

Oh, and it is still a violation of the TSA's civil rights policy. Awesome.

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/thewan...um-tsa-policy/
emphasis mine: and afaic, it's about bloody time (and i hope that is absolutely miserable for some saudi mucky-muck junior sheik who then complains and has his complaint met with deaf ears just like the us "real travelers" as it would teach him and his country a lesson)
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 8:26 am
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So someone who is a citizen of a "dodgy country" but is also a citizen of another country will be able to avoid all these additional checks
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