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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 10:56 pm
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How you guys find this stuff is amazing. The case is interesting and I would concur with the experts that the TSO does not have the expertise to speak to the issues. However, the court is right in its ruling that the expertise is not in question, it is the belief that the TSO is being retaliated against for what he has said that holds merit.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 9:20 am
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Don't they ever learn from their own mistakes? Silly question. That's been answered several times already. No.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 11:23 am
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Don't they ever learn from their own mistakes? Silly question. That's been answered several times already. No.
I think this time they did learn from their mistakes. I just checked and the document is still up on the server. http://www.mspb.gov/netsearch/viewdo...cation=ACROBAT

I guess knowing how poorly the swabs work is not nearly as dangerous as knowing what a Senate ID looks like.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 11:25 am
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I've put up another post as well and also alerted a few media folks I was in contact with from the last round I was involved in. The hits just keep on coming. In this case the only sliver of hope for the TSA that I can see is that they didn't publish the document so technically it might not be their fault. But the issue is still very real.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by Trollkiller
http://www.mspb.gov/netsearch/viewdo...cation=ACROBAT

I thought they fixed that problem.

Special thanks to Cryptome.

http://cryptome.org/0001/tsa-ssi-02.htm

I am still reading it so I don't know if there is anything juicy yet.
Hi/Low on when the next "administrative subpoena" will be served by TSA Special-Ed Agents?
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by sbm12
I've put up another post as well and also alerted a few media folks I was in contact with from the last round I was involved in. The hits just keep on coming. In this case the only sliver of hope for the TSA that I can see is that they didn't publish the document so technically it might not be their fault. But the issue is still very real.
Thanks.

From the document.

The original unexpurgated version of this Opinion and Order contains Sensitive Security Information (SSI) protected by 49 C.F.R. Parts 15 and 1520. Per agreement between the Merit Systems Protection Board and the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), the TSA has redacted all SSI protected by 49 C.F.R. Parts 15 and 1520 from this version so that it can be made available to the public.
So yep still the TSA's fault.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by n4zhg
Hi/Low on when the next "administrative subpoena" will be served by TSA Special-Ed Agents?
I hope today, cuz I am feeling all rednecky.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 12:00 pm
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Thanks.

From the document.

So yep still the TSA's fault.
So now I have to update my article yet again.

If they do show up, remember they don't get past the threshold without a warrant.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by n4zhg
So now I have to update my article yet again.

If they do show up, remember they don't get past the threshold without a warrant.
I have already briefed my wife and children on the proper response. The children have been instructed to say nothing other than "I will get Dad" and they have been instructed to come inside and shut the door behind them.

I have also instructed them that if the agent persists in asking questions the response is to be "I require a lawyer to be present at questioning".

I got my daughter a camera for Christmas, she has been instructed to take as many photos as possible. I have also instructed her on how to react if the agent tries to seize the camera.

Like I said, I am feeling all Rednecky today.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 12:24 pm
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I got my daughter a camera for Christmas, she has been instructed to take as many photos as possible. I have also instructed her on how to react if the agent tries to seize the camera.
Trying to seize the camera might be almost as dumb as Texas Tech firing their coach right before the Aloha Bowl.

There's the spot...here's the kick...ouch, right between the uprights!
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 12:27 pm
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Trying to seize the camera might be almost as dumb as Texas Tech firing their coach right before the Aloha Bowl.

There's the spot...here's the kick...ouch, right between the uprights!
She asked me if the jingles were fair game. I told her to ring that bell.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 4:16 pm
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I don't know which is scarier:

1. That TSA doesn't have the brains/talent to properly redact what it considers to be SSI;

2. That the unredacted info in this doc shows what pathetic security measures are being used with checked luggage; or

3. That TK is feeling red-necky today! (Watch out!)
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 4:39 pm
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Originally Posted by BarbiJKM
I don't know which is scarier:

1. That TSA doesn't have the brains/talent to properly redact what it considers to be SSI;

2. That the unredacted info in this doc shows what pathetic security measures are being used with checked luggage; or

3. That TK is feeling red-necky today! (Watch out!)
TK is merely my padawan in the Redneck Order.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by n4zhg
TK is merely my padawan in the Redneck Order.
Please note that the term redneck comes from the WV coal miners who were ambushed by machine gun fire while trying to organize for better working conditions and wages. They wore red kerchiefs to identify themselves.

"By 1920, coal miners had started to organize via labor unions. The Battle for West Virginia's Blair Mountain in 1921 occurred when a group of 10,000 coal miners fought for their right to organize and improve working conditions. They marched against armed Federal troops in what became the largest armed conflict on American soil following the Civil War. The solidarity that developed helped the union organize conditions in the coalfields.

To identify themselves, the Blair Mountain miners wore red kerchiefs around their necks. The documentary suggests these kerchiefs were the origin of the term redneck.

According to the Sierra Club Newsletter, Blair Mountain was shut down in 1999 and has lost all original forest and mountain topography. The modern, cheaper method of mining lops a mountaintop off its base.

The Blair Mountain site was owned by Arch Coal Company and is located near Logan, West Virginia. Kenny King, a West Virginian descended from miners who fought the Battle of Blair Mountain, has spent years documenting artifacts from the 1,600-acre site and is attempting the battlefield listed on the Natural register of Historical Places."

Quoted from: http://www.helium.com/items/632199-w...rginia-culture
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 6:18 pm
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Please note that the term redneck comes from the WV coal miners who were ambushed by machine gun fire while trying to organize for better working conditions and wages. They wore red kerchiefs to identify themselves.

"By 1920, coal miners had started to organize via labor unions. The Battle for West Virginia's Blair Mountain in 1921 occurred when a group of 10,000 coal miners fought for their right to organize and improve working conditions. They marched against armed Federal troops in what became the largest armed conflict on American soil following the Civil War. The solidarity that developed helped the union organize conditions in the coalfields.

To identify themselves, the Blair Mountain miners wore red kerchiefs around their necks. The documentary suggests these kerchiefs were the origin of the term redneck.

According to the Sierra Club Newsletter, Blair Mountain was shut down in 1999 and has lost all original forest and mountain topography. The modern, cheaper method of mining lops a mountaintop off its base.

The Blair Mountain site was owned by Arch Coal Company and is located near Logan, West Virginia. Kenny King, a West Virginian descended from miners who fought the Battle of Blair Mountain, has spent years documenting artifacts from the 1,600-acre site and is attempting the battlefield listed on the Natural register of Historical Places."

Quoted from: http://www.helium.com/items/632199-w...rginia-culture
That is the first time I ever heard that version of the origin of redneck.
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